Wadcutter wrote:
I'll believe the company Technical Advisor until I see a weigh ticket that is different from the other weigh tickets I've seen on the larger Class As.
I've got the certified weigh ticket in my files, that's all the proof I need. By your own previous admission you've stated that you've not seen all the rigs out there. We've gone around in circles already and I am well aware of the difference between ratings and actual weights. You're not listening to what I'm saying, and I'm not communicating it well enough because I'm trying to keep it brief and not write pages and pages of a response. That's why I didn't quote each and every line of your responses and say something for each sentence. Just because I didn't explicitly respond to something you've written doesn't mean I didn't read it, doesn't mean I didn't consider it, and doesn't mean that I agree with you.
You believe a customer service agent who's never seen the rig in question, over the sticker that states the
unladen weight (not the rating!) which was prepared by the factory at the time that the specific rig was built. That's fine. I'll go by what the factory stated at the time it was built, you go by a CSR's guess. I have more confidence in the factory, especially when the factory's numbers more closely relate to my certified weight ticket.
I've carefully read your responses, I'm not questioning what you say, and I respect your professional opinions. That is, up until you say that no RV ever goes over the federal axle weight limit, because I have proof to the contrary. You just go right ahead and dismiss me as someone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, I don't care about that, because I know that I know what I'm talking about (I just may not be expressing it clearly in my written words.)
I know there are other people on this forum who are struggling with the 20k per axle limit. I remember reading of one fellow who was turned around at the entrance to the Ohio Turnpike because his axle was over weight. I just did a quick search, and while I didn't find that post, I did find this thread:
Legal (?) axle weights on Class A. Take a quick scan of that thread, and look at some of the weights (not just ratings) that are posted there. I see several people who are over the 20k limit. And I know that isn't the only thread I've seen like that, there have been many. Some of the posters may be uninformed or mistaken, or may be exaggerating, but I can't believe that all of them are out to lunch.
It would appear to me that I am not an isolated incident. While evidence of one exception is enough to prove that "NEVER" doesn't apply, apparently you need more. Well that thread has several. How many cases do you need before you will admit that there are indeed some RVers out there who need to worry about the 20k limit? If you need more than that, do a little searching around here, and you will find plenty of others who are over the limit, just as you will find stories of rigs being shipped from the factory that are over the federal limit, or over their axle ratings.
Just because you haven't personally seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've never met an Illinois weight enforcement officer, but I'm pretty sure they do exist. ;)
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Therefore, this is my last post on the topic, I won't let you drag me into any more arguing. Thank you for the service you've performed to the community and this forum. You are very informative and an asset to both.
My parting comment is to the other RVers out there, not you, wadcutter:
To the owners of heavy RVs: wadcutter is a professional who has previously confirmed that there is a 20,000 pound federal axle weight limit, it does apply to RVs, there is the potential for a ticket with a hefty fine, and the potential inability to legally move your rig after being found overweight. I don't dispute any of those statements by him. But regardless of what wadcutter says about no RVs ever approaching the 20,000 pound per axle federal weight limit, I know for a fact that there are indeed RVs out there that are over that limit. If you have a heavy RV, and you think you may be close to the limit, please don't stick your head in the sand because wadcutter says you can't possibly be overweight, do go out and get yourself weighed. You might be surprised, and you don't want that surprise to be on the side of the road accompanied by a hefty fine and the inability to move your rig.That's all I'm trying to say, and I am done. Thank you for your time. Now, everybody, please go out camping and safely enjoy yourself.
