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transamz9
Jun 01, 2014Explorer
blt2ski wrote:ShapeShifter wrote:transamz9 wrote:
Actually on the rig in your siggy 18,000 is all you are allowed per axle on your drives without a permit. Now if you was to go to a single drive then yes 20,000. Your front is good for only 12,000 without a permit and then 16,000 unless you put floats on.;)
For the benefit of us non-technical folks who don't know the specs of various vehicles, could you please explain how you came up with the numbers? Start with being more specific about the rig you're referring to, I see several in that signature that you could be speaking about.
And what do you mean by "floats"?
If you understand the real laws as they pertain to how much wt you can put on an axel, you would know that tandem axels as the truck in question, the max is typically 34K lbs, but some areas allow 36K lbs or 18K per axel max. A front you can get up to 20K lbs, with floats as some call the tires, or super singles is another. THere is a small portion of the wt law that you need enough tire width also, hence the floats. If you use a typcal 10-12" tire, you get a minimum max of 500 lbs per inch width of tire, or 5-6K lbs per tire, up to 12K per axel. If you have 20" wide tires, then you get the full 20K per axel.
At the end of the day, it is not about how much the manufacture rates the truck for, it is how you are able to spread/bridge a load across the road itself. IE point loading is what the CVEO is taxing and fining you if you get above those loads.
There is no frigen way a pickup pulling a trailer will generally speaking be overweight in how a CVEO enforces the wt laws. IF they have purchased enough GVW, and are not over 500 lbs per inch width of tire, which is typically 10-12K per axel, you will not get an overwt ticket. I've been pulled over a few time at 150% of my manufactures gvwr, NEVER have I gotten an overwt ticket, as I have been under the point load/road bed limits of the law. That is what we are ticketed on, not the manufacture ratings.
Marty
Yes! You explained it way better than I ever would have been able to. I do have a typo in my post that I will correct and that is 17,000 instead of 18,000. I should proof read better. As far as I know the Federal law is 17,000 per axle on the rears unless single axle.
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