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monkey44
Nomad II
Nov 30, 2023
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Ford f150 Payload

Looking at F-150 to carry the Lance at 2750 dry.  Sold my 2500HD, and need a short truck to fit in my garage.  So, looked at GM 1500's, and payload says 1800-2200 lbs ... I thinking based on equipmen...
  • nickthehunter's avatar
    nickthehunter
    Dec 03, 2023

    Based upon my knowledge from when I was shopping for trucks 3 years ago; you could order a regular cab F150 XL 4X4 with the Heavy Duty Payload Package (HDPP), 18 inch wheels, and 8-foot bed. That would get you 4800 lbs rear GAWR and about 3000 lbs payload. You will likely exceed both ratings by about 250 lbs +/-; 4X2 will give you about 200 lbs more payload. That is as close as you will get to what you want in a 1/2 ton truck.

  • monkey44's avatar
    monkey44
    Dec 05, 2023

    Thx Grit-dog.. YEAH, I'm already going in a different direction ...  It looked like the truck were getting more Payload, but as it turns out the specs were calling out specific other options, but exaggerating the potential as usual.  I've been around truck campers a lot of years. That's why I do my homework first, and buy a truck second once I figure it out.  

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nickthehunter
Nomad II
Dec 03, 2023

In order to adequately answer your question, we need to know what size truck will fit in your garage. We don’t know if your limitation is height, width, length, combination of all of these, or what. 
I would also point out that the response in the preceding post “virtually all of the TC’s weight will sit on the rear axle” is patently false in my opinion. I would guess that at least 10% of the weight will be on the front axle (depending on how the TC is built and loaded). That is not “virtually all” in my lexicon (YOMV).

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    monkey44
    Nomad II
    Dec 03, 2023

    I tried to find a single cab short bed GM, but it's not built in a 2500 anymore, only 1500.  Looked at Ford, same thing.  I sold my 2500HD Dbl Cab SB because it's too big.  Should have researched first, but didn't - my own fault.  Now am trying to figure out how to resolve it.  The only GM with single cab 2500 is LB, which camper won't fit, and is almost as long as the Dbl Cab.  I mostly want to get away from the Dbl Cab models, and just go with a single cab short bed 4x4.   Seems like Mfgs are getting away from trucks, and into family level vehicles with a bed.   I don't like them particularly, and my family is grown, gone, and only me camping, sometimes wife sometimes not.  For the cost,  Dbl Cab and Crew cab are a waste of money and space for me today, especially if no kids. 

    I've been truck camping all over this country for over twenty years - I want to shrink the truck. But buying both a new truck and a lighter camper is not on the table.  At one time maybe, but at today's costs, not happening. Camper is Lance 845 and in great shape, under cover most of its life..   I'm just trying to investigate my options before I make a choice.   The 2024 Sierra 1500 will care 2200 lbs -- camper dry is 2750. -- 3000 wet --  I'm also looking at beefing up the suspension as a possibility, it's not that much difference, but also do not want to run at the max either.   I would beef up the tires to 10 play for sure, and add helper springs - heavier shocks front  and rear - just not sure that's enough.  I travel short distances now - 300-400 miles, not cross country - and live in Florida - no mountains.  It's a dilemma I created for myself - am looking for some experienced info here, which is the best place to get it.  Not sure what I can do with rear axle and bearings ???

    • Grit_dog's avatar
      Grit_dog
      Navigator
      Dec 05, 2023

      You need to re-think your plan. 
      A.  A 3klb TC in any half ton, much less a rcsb truck (rare but you could probably order one. Definitely not with a heavy payload option though, even though a heavy half is still too light duty) is basically a non starter. 
      B.  No mfg has ever made a rcsb 3/4 or 1 ton. So it’s not just that one isn’t made “now.”  
      C. If your only reason for getting a short bed is due to a camper that is supposedly short bed only, you can put it in a long bed and block it back far enough for the overhang to clear. And you’ll have extra storage space up front. 

      • monkey44's avatar
        monkey44
        Nomad II
        Dec 05, 2023

        Thx Grit-dog.. YEAH, I'm already going in a different direction ...  It looked like the truck were getting more Payload, but as it turns out the specs were calling out specific other options, but exaggerating the potential as usual.  I've been around truck campers a lot of years. That's why I do my homework first, and buy a truck second once I figure it out.  

    • nickthehunter's avatar
      nickthehunter
      Nomad II
      Dec 03, 2023

      Based upon my knowledge from when I was shopping for trucks 3 years ago; you could order a regular cab F150 XL 4X4 with the Heavy Duty Payload Package (HDPP), 18 inch wheels, and 8-foot bed. That would get you 4800 lbs rear GAWR and about 3000 lbs payload. You will likely exceed both ratings by about 250 lbs +/-; 4X2 will give you about 200 lbs more payload. That is as close as you will get to what you want in a 1/2 ton truck.

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