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valhalla360 wrote:
alexleblanc wrote:
proof that a new 3/4ton or 1ton SUV would sell well imo. Ford, GM , Ram are you listening?
Yeah, no...you get weird things happening with small volume specialty vehicles. By this logic, Ford, GM and Ram should start mass producing Ferrari knock offs because the prices are high.
Likely wouldn't make financial sense but for $35k, could you pick up a more recent model 1/2 ton Expedition (maybe 10yr old with good body...maybe with a blown engine) and an old F250 with a good 7.3 and transplant the engine. You could also swap out axle/suspension to beef up the capability.
If you spent $20k on doner vehicles, that would leave you $15k for the transplant and suspension upgrades. Just a question of if you can squeeze the 7.3 in without major surgery on the engine bay.
I just don't get the love affair with the old diesels (of every flavor). Sure, they were impressive when they were made - but that was 20 years ago.
In both performance and economy, the 3.5 EcoBoost (or Hemi or 6.2 for that matter) are just flat out better engines than a old 5.9 or 7.3.
And that doesn't even scratch the surface of the upgrades inside the vehicles - touchscreen radios, adaptive cruise, park assist, lane assist, CarPlay......that are included on the new vehicles. Sure some you can add, but not all of them.
Sorry. Hard pass on something like this. Especially at this price.- OP, if you are looking for a diesel in a big family hauler like that, GM will be putting the 3.0L diesel in the 2021 Suburban/Tahoe/Yukon. It will make about 266hp/477lb-ft which compares to the 250hp/505lb-ft the 7.3L had with an auto in 2001. Although the new GM will have a 10-speed which will make a huge difference towing versus the 4-speed in the Excursion.
Main drawback of the GM is that it will likely cost more than twice as much as that Excursion and it will have lower payload/tow ratings. I believe the tow rating is only 8,300 lbs while the Excursion was over 11k. It would be nice if they would make it available with a 2500 frame/suspension. alexleblanc wrote:
proof that a new 3/4ton or 1ton SUV would sell well imo. Ford, GM , Ram are you listening?
Yeah, no...you get weird things happening with small volume specialty vehicles. By this logic, Ford, GM and Ram should start mass producing Ferrari knock offs because the prices are high.
Likely wouldn't make financial sense but for $35k, could you pick up a more recent model 1/2 ton Expedition (maybe 10yr old with good body...maybe with a blown engine) and an old F250 with a good 7.3 and transplant the engine. You could also swap out axle/suspension to beef up the capability.
If you spent $20k on doner vehicles, that would leave you $15k for the transplant and suspension upgrades. Just a question of if you can squeeze the 7.3 in without major surgery on the engine bay.- I own a 2002 Ford with the 7.3. It is worth around $18k, but to replace it with a used truck with the 6.7 I need at least $40k. How did trucks become so expensive?
Maybe its because even the base models have bluetooth, backup cameras and plenty of other doodads. I am going to look at the most basic trucks I can find with the right drive train. - I had a chance to buy a 2019 3500 Suburban with 20k miles for $75k. I decided that I could keep my $22k Express and just get a 3500 Sierra CC for nearly the same price.
If there was a market (meaning that a auto company could make a profit) for these, I would think one of the OEMs would be doing that. There is much complexity to selling vehicles. A1ARealtorRick wrote:
Regardless of what someone pays for it, if it gets totaled out or stolen with no recovery, an insurer is going to value it, at best, in the $18,000-range. Of course, there's always Lloyds of London!
NADA guide says best case $11,000. I sold my 2001 8.1L Suburban with 185k on the clock in May for $7500. The phone was ringing off the hook with $3k offers until I got somebody to actually come over and drive it.- proof that a new 3/4ton or 1ton SUV would sell well imo. Ford, GM , Ram are you listening?
- "And you can insure it for an agreed value you just have to add it on to your regular insurance."
Unless you go through a specialty company like Hagerty or even a writer for Lloyd's, unless the books or an independent appraisal justify the value, you won't be able to tack it on to your auto policy as an agreed value. Been there -- done that. - DW had a 2001 Ford Excursion with the V10 for 10 years and loved it.... It started to nickle and dime us with nuisance problems..
She saw a Cadillac CTS that in her words "she had to have"... She sold that X for $13,000 with 40K on the clock...That was 2011...
Now we see that X driving around the neighborhood here and there and every time she sees it she says that she should have never let it go...
Now she is in an 19 Explorer Platinum which I really like to drive - When I was looking for a 2500 SUV a few years back I saw similar Excursions posted. Same price as this one, but at least, unlike this one, they were mostly low miles And they seemed to sit forever.
People can put any price they want on a something for sale. Certainly doesn't mean they will get it.
That said, what was that old saying from PT Barnum?......
