Forum Discussion
BenK
Dec 30, 2016Explorer
Lost abilities and/or knowledge of stuff...
Take a manual tranny vs an AUTOMATIC tranny...how many times do we here (and on other forms am on)...the question of 'what is the tow/haul button for???"....or it shifts too much (how to shut that off...or keep it in OD so it won't make that noise, etc)....or is 280*F okay?....
Betcha less than 10% know HOW2 shift a manual tranny today....
Traction Control...highly integrated with ABS...highly integrated with anti-sway control...highly integrated with torque control...highly integrated with Automatic Tranny...highly integrated with ECU...highly integrated with cruise control...highly integrated with forward looking avoidance braking system...highly integrated with the rest of the 100 or so on board computers and systems...right now on existing offerings...
Autonomous (has to have a min level of AI to be autonomous) needs to have a humongous DB...how long does it take a human to learn HOW2 drive? A few years?
Also, the decisions and assumptions any driver, whether a human or a robot has to make is also a huge DB to navigate...how many times does the human make the right decision vs the wrong decision...insurance anyone???
Unless *All* vehicles on the road are of similar architecture and software...there will be variations on that decision making...like humans coming from different learning experiences (just think of the singluar questions here and the multitude of answers that are similar to very different from each other
Or just take automatic emergency braking to avoid vehicle in front of you...of course you can out brake another driver who is also looking (gathering info via their various sensors) vs you just looking at the vehicle in front of you...gathering speed, distance vs the look up table of the distance you can stop for 'that' speed, 'that' OEM tire brand/model/size...aired up to the door label PSI, etc, etc.
Change any one of those known attributes, say tire size/brand/treadetc, and the above scenario (look up tables) will NOT be as good as all OEM equipment...
Or the decision tree (truth tables) for a two lane road, posted speed of 55 MPH, double, double center lines....and....an oncoming vehicle crosses the double, double line...what to do?
Do you just brake to have that other vehicle do a header into your?
Do you pull over to the shoulder?...or is there a guard rail protecting you from a 200 foot drop off?....or there is a guy changing his tire on the shoulder...or a bus stop with humans standing round there?
Do you pull over to the left and into their lane?...pull over even farther into their shoulder?
Then what will the other vehicle do?...does it have an AI/Autonomoous computer system...or an old fashioned human driver?
This scenario replicates for EVERYTHING to do with driving...to even just the vehicle itself....
Take a manual tranny vs an AUTOMATIC tranny...how many times do we here (and on other forms am on)...the question of 'what is the tow/haul button for???"....or it shifts too much (how to shut that off...or keep it in OD so it won't make that noise, etc)....or is 280*F okay?....
Betcha less than 10% know HOW2 shift a manual tranny today....
Traction Control...highly integrated with ABS...highly integrated with anti-sway control...highly integrated with torque control...highly integrated with Automatic Tranny...highly integrated with ECU...highly integrated with cruise control...highly integrated with forward looking avoidance braking system...highly integrated with the rest of the 100 or so on board computers and systems...right now on existing offerings...
Autonomous (has to have a min level of AI to be autonomous) needs to have a humongous DB...how long does it take a human to learn HOW2 drive? A few years?
Also, the decisions and assumptions any driver, whether a human or a robot has to make is also a huge DB to navigate...how many times does the human make the right decision vs the wrong decision...insurance anyone???
Unless *All* vehicles on the road are of similar architecture and software...there will be variations on that decision making...like humans coming from different learning experiences (just think of the singluar questions here and the multitude of answers that are similar to very different from each other
Or just take automatic emergency braking to avoid vehicle in front of you...of course you can out brake another driver who is also looking (gathering info via their various sensors) vs you just looking at the vehicle in front of you...gathering speed, distance vs the look up table of the distance you can stop for 'that' speed, 'that' OEM tire brand/model/size...aired up to the door label PSI, etc, etc.
Change any one of those known attributes, say tire size/brand/treadetc, and the above scenario (look up tables) will NOT be as good as all OEM equipment...
Or the decision tree (truth tables) for a two lane road, posted speed of 55 MPH, double, double center lines....and....an oncoming vehicle crosses the double, double line...what to do?
Do you just brake to have that other vehicle do a header into your?
Do you pull over to the shoulder?...or is there a guard rail protecting you from a 200 foot drop off?....or there is a guy changing his tire on the shoulder...or a bus stop with humans standing round there?
Do you pull over to the left and into their lane?...pull over even farther into their shoulder?
Then what will the other vehicle do?...does it have an AI/Autonomoous computer system...or an old fashioned human driver?
This scenario replicates for EVERYTHING to do with driving...to even just the vehicle itself....
About Tow Vehicles
From fifth wheels to teardrop trailers and everything in between.234 PostsLatest Activity: Dec 08, 2025