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Dave_Pete
Jan 14, 2016Explorer II
Now before I move forward on the Hmmmmm regarding the big piece on the ceiling, I'm going to address some more of the back wall, as well as modifications to the wood for clearance/marker lights.
Let's start with the back wall.
After a basic cleaning and straightening of the back wall pieces, and before their sanding - a task which hasn't been done yet, even as of today - I laid them out for back wall template purposes.





This is where I marked all the holes (screws/lights/damage) in red pen. Then came back and pink highlighted those for easier evaluation with the metal taken back down.






And then I did the same on the front wall.

{Edit 2/9/16 - The following method described for protection of the clearance/marker lights wiring (using a piece of heavier house wire sheathing) was discarded after finding a better method - that of routing a deeper groove in the wood itself for a proper channel.}
And this might belong under the "Electric Thread" (see beginning of this thread on page one for an index to other threads in this Resto-Mod), but suffice to say for now, this is my replacement for a similar original method of protecting the clearance/marker light wiring as it passes through the critical wood corners.

And here's how it fits on the camper.

And my first attempt at lowering the profile of the wiring packet so as to allow a flatter, more solid fit for the clearance lights.

But something still felt wrong.
Again I suppose this fits in Electric, but I got out my new LED clearance lights (it was hard to find 3" LED surface mount lights but I took a tip from Gary over in the Avion Thread) and looking at the back, I determined perhaps a better method for tucking in the extra wiring for easy future maintenance.
After a careful examination front and back of exactly where the existing metal holes were, and what were my requirements to cover those holes in a more "measured" and balanced way than the original method of slapping them up wherever the installer's eye wanted them sans tape measure, I made new marks to reflect the exact positioning of each light, purposely moving them somewhat inbound from the original spot so as to make a better sealing and caulking joint than their original closer edge position. Also, the sheet metal holes in the flattened front center board needed butyl tape cover and protection.
Thus, the plywood templates for a small piece of aluminum plate UNDER each light for covering the holes, and an extra depth for a wiring cavity due to the aluminum's planned up to 1/4" thickness.

That little plywood flare would butt up to the edge molding, and between the two pieces, would cover and protect the sealing of the butyl tape over the various holes.
I was able to make one template for the five front markers and the three center back wall markers, a second template for the two back wall left and right markers (screw holes here were spread further due to a PO placing a larger tail light lens over the replaced and failed clearance light spots), and a third template for the side markers (which tale to be told another day). The templates should harmonize with each other, perform the job of covering inconveniently placed sheet metal holes (including that caused by the front wall roof flattening), and add an element of custom, classy bling to Lil' Queeny's wardrobe (and just hope we don't have a wardrobe malfunction).
Will it accomplish all that? Well - at this point you'll just have to trust me.
So with a plan in hand, I broke out the drill and started cleaning out old - and making new - wiring channel holes.




By now, I had version 1.2 completed for the front wall. Version 1.3 had not yet been envisioned, and was still to come.
Let's start with the back wall.
After a basic cleaning and straightening of the back wall pieces, and before their sanding - a task which hasn't been done yet, even as of today - I laid them out for back wall template purposes.





This is where I marked all the holes (screws/lights/damage) in red pen. Then came back and pink highlighted those for easier evaluation with the metal taken back down.






And then I did the same on the front wall.

{Edit 2/9/16 - The following method described for protection of the clearance/marker lights wiring (using a piece of heavier house wire sheathing) was discarded after finding a better method - that of routing a deeper groove in the wood itself for a proper channel.}
And this might belong under the "Electric Thread" (see beginning of this thread on page one for an index to other threads in this Resto-Mod), but suffice to say for now, this is my replacement for a similar original method of protecting the clearance/marker light wiring as it passes through the critical wood corners.

And here's how it fits on the camper.

And my first attempt at lowering the profile of the wiring packet so as to allow a flatter, more solid fit for the clearance lights.

But something still felt wrong.
Again I suppose this fits in Electric, but I got out my new LED clearance lights (it was hard to find 3" LED surface mount lights but I took a tip from Gary over in the Avion Thread) and looking at the back, I determined perhaps a better method for tucking in the extra wiring for easy future maintenance.
After a careful examination front and back of exactly where the existing metal holes were, and what were my requirements to cover those holes in a more "measured" and balanced way than the original method of slapping them up wherever the installer's eye wanted them sans tape measure, I made new marks to reflect the exact positioning of each light, purposely moving them somewhat inbound from the original spot so as to make a better sealing and caulking joint than their original closer edge position. Also, the sheet metal holes in the flattened front center board needed butyl tape cover and protection.
Thus, the plywood templates for a small piece of aluminum plate UNDER each light for covering the holes, and an extra depth for a wiring cavity due to the aluminum's planned up to 1/4" thickness.

That little plywood flare would butt up to the edge molding, and between the two pieces, would cover and protect the sealing of the butyl tape over the various holes.
I was able to make one template for the five front markers and the three center back wall markers, a second template for the two back wall left and right markers (screw holes here were spread further due to a PO placing a larger tail light lens over the replaced and failed clearance light spots), and a third template for the side markers (which tale to be told another day). The templates should harmonize with each other, perform the job of covering inconveniently placed sheet metal holes (including that caused by the front wall roof flattening), and add an element of custom, classy bling to Lil' Queeny's wardrobe (and just hope we don't have a wardrobe malfunction).
Will it accomplish all that? Well - at this point you'll just have to trust me.
So with a plan in hand, I broke out the drill and started cleaning out old - and making new - wiring channel holes.




By now, I had version 1.2 completed for the front wall. Version 1.3 had not yet been envisioned, and was still to come.
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