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PumpNDump
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Sep 07, 2017

1st Timer Here, Towing Question

Greetings All!

I am totally a new guy when it comes to towing, camping etc.

In 09 we bought a Nissan Pathfinder SE 4x4 V6, its been a great vehicle. Took it to a local RV place in my area. They've explained that it will tow " anything " we wanted, but they couldn't quote me the figures of what I could tow in weight. We promptly left that dealership.

Anywho I'm looking to figure out what the approx weight of travel trailer I could tow with my vehicle.

From taking everything I have at the moment to a local weight scale I know that :
- Vehicle weights 4484 lbs
- People and cargo weights 824.6 lbs

* Tongue weight is 600lbs

Been to several sites looking it up but they all seem to throw out abbreviations that I get confused with. Anyone able to point me in the right direction of figuring this out?

Cheers!
  • Looking at the sticker :

    GVWR - 6113 lbs
    GAWR FR - 2820 lbs
    GAWR RR - 3501 lbs

    Combined weight should not exceed 1102 lbs according to the sticker.

    So if I am taking 6113 lbs from 4484lbs = 1629 lbs as a possible payload if I did that right.
  • All you have to do is look at the drivers side door frame, there is yellow sticker that will give you most of the info you need
    You are interested in the GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) subtract the 4484 from that figure and that is your maximum payload Your payload is people plus trailer hitch weight plus all gear you plan to put into the vehicle. I see your estimate is about 1400 lbs. Does your payload for vehicle exceed that number if so we go to
    CVWR (combined vehicle weight rating) this is the max of the vehicle fully loaded plus the trailer fully loaded. Are you over or under this number?
    If you exceed either then you should not tow the combo.
    If you are still okay at this point then we get into stuff not on the sticker
    Such as maximum axle weight etc.
    Let me know if you want more info but this should get you started
  • Definitely felt like I'd have to take an additional 100 lbs off the top at least for additional weight. Like your saying though we would be limited on our trailer selections. I've been thinking of actually upgrading our second car to a Truck to be able to tow more. For the trailer, we have a family of five so it would be terribly cramped in a tear drop. So might be worth looking into getting a truck.
  • Don't forget you will be putting 'stuff' in that trailer. Figure 1000-1200 pounds which comes off the max tow weight. You will 100 percent want a anti-sway hitch which also will come off the weight you can tow. I'd figure 3000-3500 (safe) max
  • 600 pounds of max tongue weight. 4,600 pound trailer wet and loaded should be 600 at 13%. Kinda far from Nissan's 6,000 TT max weight. So add the people, hitch and tongue weight...easy 1,500 pounds. What's your payload? 1,170 to 1,554 lbs.?
  • Thanks, Agesilaus!

    I did look at the 09 trailer life towing guide, it showed 6000lbs tow cap for my vehicle. Was using that as a guide for the figure that I had GCWR=11,133lbs and could look for a trailer around 4,850 lbs. Since this is the first time im doing this I'm just not sure if that sounds right.
  • Well no it won't 'tow anything', sorry to share the bad news but it will hardly tow anything. Look at the 1999 Trailer Life towing guide: PDF. This is a OK general guide that they publish annually. It will get you in the ballpark, and in the case of your vehicle, with a single line entry, it's probably close to right.

    Scroll down to your vehicle and if I'm reading it right it will tow a max of 5000 pounds with an automatic trans and 3500# with a manual. You are probably limited to a popup camper or other very very light weight unit like some of the teardrop campers (grossly overpriced in my view).

    You have learned one hard fact, do not believe a word that comes out of a RV salesman's mouth, especially when it comes to tow vehicles. Fortunately you learned that before you bought something from him.