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jerem0621
Sep 16, 2018Explorer II
Huntindog wrote:ScottG wrote:Some years back, Ron Gratz did the calculations. The cams really did not add a lot to what is a friction based system.LarryJM wrote:ScottG wrote:
You would be better off making some adjustments to try and reduce the effect. More spring rate or more weight at front of trailer.
Also, a better hitch like the Reese Dual Cam with active sway control will both resist sway and push the combination back in line.
There are other brands that offer active sway control but I've not used them.
It appears you really do not understand these sway systems since the Reese DOES NOT RESIST SWAY and DOES NOT PUSH the combination back in line nor is it what could be called "ACTIVE SWAY CONTROL". The friction type sway bar sytems and the Reese and Equal-i-zer all are "FRICTION TYPE" sway systems .... they just perform the same function in slightly different ways.
Larry
No Larry, it's you that doesn't understand and I've seen you argue this way in the past.
In Reese's own literature it explains that friction plays no part in its function. And it IS active. The more sideways the trailer gets, the stronger the spring bar pushes back because the cam is climbing the bar and making it stiffer. Friction doesn't limit movement like on the system your familiar with. In fact, you can lubricate every part of it without having any impact on its function.
But this has already been explained in detail to you but you either refuse to learn or simply cannot understand it. If you had the system you would probably understand it better.
But for now, you and I and Reese will just have to have different opinions.
In fact, Ron did the calculations for all three hitches and they were very close as to their anti sway measurements.
My own experience bears this out. I started with a single, then a dual friction sway control. I now am on my third Equalizer.
IMO, a dual sway control works just as well as the EQUALIZER, just as Rons calculations said it should. Now there are some other reasons why one may want to go away from a friction sway bar to an integrated friction control, but performance shouldn't be one of them.
If you really believe that the cams are strong enough to force the tt into a straight line.... Then you better not tow on a muddy road, or in any adverse conditions at all.... That would not be a good situation.
Facts are, there is no issues with towing with a DC under those conditions,,,,So the cams cannot be as strong as you believe.
Yep, I have use DC and dual friction bars and there was ZERO difference once both were dialed in. Both were very comfy tows.
DC seems to break when they get in a bind though. One reason I like friction bars. If i break a sway bar its cheap to replace (I usually have a spare anyway)
One negative about the DC sway control is that if the spring bars are a lighter weight bar (600 or 800) then the bars themselves are narrower than the cam's and can move side to side allowing some of that wiggle people get twitchy about when towing.
Dual friction bars don't care about the weight distribution part, they are independent. I used 1 bar with my PUP and 2 with my TT. Both combos were locked in solid with the TV's and were very comfortable and relaxing tows.
This is another reason I like my TV's to be able to handle the tongue weight 100% without weight distribution. I carry a back up stinger in case my weight distribution hitch breaks (it happens) and having a regular draw bar can let you continue towing without the WD hitch and still be safe. Oh, you can add the sway bar mounts to the regular draw bar so now I still have my sway control even if I lose my WD. Being stuck at the campground with no way to tow is not a good feeling.
OP.. Please weigh your rig and KNOW what you are looking at. Too light of a tongue weight will make things sketchy too.
1,000 plus posts on how to weigh your rig, please search. and then post back with your actual weights, that will help a bunch.
Sway control should be something added AFTER dialing in the combo (truck, trailer, and hitch) . it is insurance and should not be used as a band-aid.
All the second bar did for my combo is take the little bit of wiggle out from passing vehicles. My truck, trailer, and hitch were dialed in. The sway bars were just the icing on the cake.
Thanks!
Jeremiah
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