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- waltahExplorer
Mvander wrote:
The 5.0 has the same HP as the eco(minus 5) but you will have to access it differently.
quite the gap in torque across the entire rpm range. the engines arent comparable, they were built for different purposes. The 6.2 is more comparable to the EB than the 5.0 - Mike_UpExplorer
waltah wrote:
Mike Up wrote:
Since it looks like you'll be really close, you may want to find a 3/4 ton truck that has more payload for your heavier travel trailer.
Good luck.
Or he could find a max tow and/or hd payload with 7700 or 8200 GVWR. Would be more comfortable towing a 33ft with a 3/4 though, I agree.
Max tow only comes with Ecoboost or 6.2l. I surely didn't want Ecoboost after coming out of a troubled 2010 5.4l. 6.2 is good option for 2013 and 2014 as it can be had in XLT trim but must be fully loaded.
HD Payload packages are very rare and hard to find, at least in my area.
3/4 ton may be best option. - MvanderExplorerThe 5.0 has the same HP as the eco(minus 5) but you will have to access it differently. Your probably asking a lot but it will do it. You won't win drag races but you won't stall on hills either. 3500-4000k for big hills. All N.A. gas motors will be this way.
- waltahExplorer
Mike Up wrote:
Since it looks like you'll be really close, you may want to find a 3/4 ton truck that has more payload for your heavier travel trailer.
Good luck.
Or he could find a max tow and/or hd payload with 7700 or 8200 GVWR. Would be more comfortable towing a 33ft with a 3/4 though, I agree. - waltahExplorer
Mike Up wrote:
Sounds like you had bad fuel, clogged air filter, dirty fuel injectors or defective wire by throttle accelerator. :)
Drove in 40 mph winds and very large hills with demanding grades, always had reserve power and never needed to have 4K rpms to maintain speed. Trailer is a 6500 lbs loaded tall Jay Flight 29' length 26BH.
Never a problem controlling the trailer going down hills or even in wind with my Reese Strait-Line hitch. Truck has plenty of engine braking and torque down low. Has more torque down low than my previous, nearly identically configured 2010 Screw 4WD 5.4L w/3.55 LS truck. Same transmission gearing but slightly lower ratio axle gearing that would had supposedly equaled the torque between the 2. BUT the 5.0L still had gobs more torque down low, than the 5.4L, despite that.
Perhaps you're just use to driving 3/4 - 1 ton diesels that rarely rev past 3000 rpms and make their torque peak at a barely moving 1500 rpms.
I've towed with numerous 1/2 tons and midsize trucks and this F150 5.0L is the best by far, out of any of them.
I know people are sensitive about their vehicles on here so I'm not going to argue with you. Just wanted to share my experience with the 5.0 and towing. It didn't work well for me, if it works okay for you that's fine. I bought it before I bought a TT so for everyday driving it was fantastic. I know what I experienced pulling with it and I shared it, a simple search on f150forum and here will show similar experiences to mine as well so I am not the minority. - Mike_UpExplorer
baitboy wrote:
Sorry about the lack of info. Here are the facts. 2011 F150, SuperCrew Cab, 4WD, 7200# GVWR package, 36 gallon gas tank, Trailer tow package, 5.5' bed, the truck will have myself, my wife, 40 lbs of dog, 200 lbs of stuff in it, P275/65R18 tires, Trailer brake controller, off road Package, select shift Transmission and the truck has a Soft tonneau cover. I hope this helps and I really appreciate your help.
So with everything your described, I'd say about 600 lbs for everything (everyone also) in the truck.
Your truck looks very similar to mine except the off road package. I think you'll be right at the GVWR because your's is 150 lbs lower than my 7350 lbs and you'll have a much heavier trailer, even though you have 200 lbs less in the truck than me.
7800 * 13% (average travel trailer tongue weight) = 1014 lbs. 1014 * 80% (Average WDH weight that's transfered to the trucks axles) = 811 . 811 + 600 = 1411 lbs. If your yellow tire loading (tread act) sticker states 1411 lbs or more, you "SHOULD" be OK if the trucks cargo weight, and average percentages are correct for your rig. Best to get it weighed when you have it to see how close you are. But then it's to late, it's yours.
Since it looks like you'll be really close, you may want to find a 3/4 ton truck that has more payload for your heavier travel trailer.
Good luck. - baitboyExplorerSorry about the lack of info. Here are the facts. 2011 F150, SuperCrew Cab, 4WD, 7200# GVWR package, 36 gallon gas tank, Trailer tow package, 5.5' bed, the truck will have myself, my wife, 40 lbs of dog, 200 lbs of stuff in it, P275/65R18 tires, Trailer brake controller, off road Package, select shift Transmission and the truck has a Soft tonneau cover. I hope this helps and I really appreciate your help.
- baitboyExplorerSorry about the lack of info. Here are the facts. 2011 F150, SuperCrew Cab, 4WD, 7200# GVWR package, 36 gallon gas tank, Trailer tow package, 5.5' bed, the truck will have myself, my wife, 40 lbs of dog, 200 lbs of stuff in it, P275/65R18 tires, Trailer brake controller, off road Package, select shift Transmission and the truck has a Soft tonneau cover. I hope this helps and I really appreciate your help.
- Mike_UpExplorer
missionman wrote:
I towed my #6500 TT with a 2011 3.55 5.0 4x4 SCAB F150 regular tow pckg. note* I bought the truck before the TT not knowing the true dynamics of tow capacity and payload. 5.0 payload isn't good without the max payload option. I was within 100-200#'s of my GVWR with passengers/cargo/TT tongue weight.
Upgraded the truck after driving in the Adirondack/finger lake region. Need over 4k rpms to get to the meat of the torque to get up long grade changes and even had to romp on it to get up to highway speed. Once you were cruising it was okay, it would gear hunt even with 6th locked out but expected with high revving V8. You knew the trailer was in tow with the 5.0, or even hauling a load (pavers, topsoil, etc.) It got the job done though. Couple that with the 147" wheelbase and I was ready to upgrade.
The 5.0 drivetrain will get the job done but doesn't really feel comfortable towing/hauling at its towing/payload limits, YMMV.
Sounds like you had bad fuel, clogged air filter, dirty fuel injectors or defective wire by throttle accelerator. :)
Drove in 40 mph winds and very large hills with demanding grades, always had reserve power and never needed to have 4K rpms to maintain speed. Trailer is a 6500 lbs loaded tall Jay Flight 29' length 26BH.
Never a problem controlling the trailer going down hills or even in wind with my Reese Strait-Line hitch. Truck has plenty of engine braking and torque down low. Has more torque down low than my previous, nearly identically configured 2010 Screw 4WD 5.4L w/3.55 LS truck. Same transmission gearing but slightly lower ratio axle gearing that would had supposedly equaled the torque between the 2. BUT the 5.0L still had gobs more torque down low, than the 5.4L, despite that.
Perhaps you're just use to driving 3/4 - 1 ton diesels that rarely rev past 3000 rpms and make their torque peak at a barely moving 1500 rpms.
I've towed with numerous 1/2 tons and midsize trucks and this F150 5.0L is the best by far, out of any of them.
Throw some LT tires on the truck and you'll get a stiffer side wall that hampers the back and forth wallowing motion that P-rated tires are known for. That can be un-nerving for some. - missionmanExplorerI towed my #6500 TT with a 2011 3.55 5.0 4x4 SCAB F150 regular tow pckg. note* I bought the truck before the TT not knowing the true dynamics of tow capacity and payload. 5.0 payload isn't good without the max payload option. I was within 100-200#'s of my GVWR with passengers/cargo/TT tongue weight.
Upgraded the truck after driving in the Adirondack/finger lake region. Need over 4k rpms to get to the meat of the torque to get up long grade changes and even had to romp on it to get up to highway speed. Once you were cruising it was okay, it would gear hunt even with 6th locked out but expected with high revving V8. You knew the trailer was in tow with the 5.0, or even hauling a load (pavers, topsoil, etc.) It got the job done though. Couple that with the 147" wheelbase and I was ready to upgrade.
The 5.0 drivetrain will get the job done but doesn't really feel comfortable towing/hauling at its towing/payload limits, YMMV.
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