2013 f150 Ecoboost is a Tracer 3150BHD to much??

Re-reading the entire thread, I do see you said you have neither maxtow or max payload. The scale information you posted is a huge help.

cman88 wrote:

Actual Weights
GVW-6480
F-3636
R-2844

Did you fill the tank? If not, figure an extra 8# per gallon.

Now you're starting to see the real problem. You've got only 720 pounds of payload left. Since a properly balanced TT should have around 12-15% of its weight on the tongue, you should be looking at trailers in the 4800-6000# range, and that's when fully loaded.

cman88 wrote:

Now I know the tracer is out of the question, but if I laoded all the stuff I put in the truck box and put it at the back of a trailer would I not gain extra payload??

Yes, but not pound-for-pound. Remember, 12-15% of everything in the trailer will end up on the tongue, so you'll save only 85% of the weight by moving it to the trailer.

cman88 wrote:

I estamate 125Lbs of the 6480 was gear. Also we have 2 autos so if we had to I could deduct 125lbs (gear) and 275lbs (wife,2kids) from gvw,payload and put in second auto. So with all that, what is the max trialer I can haul.

Your plan would remove 340# from the truck, leaving you with 1060# for tongue weight. 1060/12-15% = 7000-8800#. Big difference!

cman88 wrote:

Found another one that fits our needs It comes in at around 5900lbs dry with a 750lbs hitch weight.

Be very careful about weights listed in trailer brochures (or given to you by trailer salesmen). Loaded weight will be significantly higher. You've got to include the weight of all options, gear, water, propane, etc., and believe me it's very easy to underestimate this. For reference, my trailer is listed at 5800# dry, but at the scales it's 7400#. Also, I'd ignore the listed tongue weight altogether. For proper balance, 12-15% of the trailer's total loaded weight should be on the tongue. If it's less than that, it probably won't tow well (will tend to sway more), so you'll need to move cargo forward to get more weight on the tongue.

That said, it looks like this second trailer is within your truck's capabilities, if you move the weight out of the truck as you said.

-- Rob