ShinerBock wrote:
ScottG wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
ScottG wrote:
The problem isn't so much the turbo's, it's the direct injection and the resulting carbon build up at higher mileage.
Fords fix in the past has been to replace the heads.
And it's not a "Ford" thing; any gas vehicle with DI is subject to this problem. That's not a reason to not tow with it though.
Now someone is going to come on and say they have 3 million miles and never heard of this or that I'm some sort of anti Ford guy. My history of posts proves otherwise and besides, I owned lots of Ford and Chevys.
I suggest you do some internet research for yourself.
Carbon buildup is not so much an issue on DI engines without EGR system like Ecoboost engines found in the F150 or GM's Ecotec line of engines. It is a major issue in DI engines with EGR systems like the Ecoboost 2.0L, VW 2.0L, and BMW 2.0L.
Don't get me wrong, there is still carbon build up in DI engines without EGR systems(just like there is with port injected engines as well), but it is not enough to cause a major failure like it does on the DI engines with EGR systems.
Not sure how to decide what denotes a "major" problem (note that I didn't use that term) but it has been bad enough that heads are replaced. That would make it major to me.
This is exactly why I suggest the OP research this himself.It's not like the eng will come apart and leave him sitting or even have chronic issues.
He needs to decide for himself if it suits his needs and whether he is concerned about this engines specific idiosyncrasies.
It has been bad enough on the F150 Ecoboost engines and GM Ecotec engines that most of them are needing head replacement?
Ford and GM has sold over a million of these DI engines in their trucks and one would think if most needed head replacement then you would hear about it especially on this forum. I have seen one off situations in forums where someone needed a head replacement, but it has been less than a few times and it was not known that it was 100% the carbon buildup that warranted the head replacement.
The funny thing is, I find that most that make this out to be some big issue are usually the ones that have never even owned neither an F150 Ecoboost engine or GM Ecotec engine. The fact is that it is so little of an issue when you look at how many have been sold, that statistically your chances of it causing any major failures is not even close to being as big of an issue that some(that have never owned these engines) like to make it out to be.
I think you are either mis-reading the post, or you are putting words in his mouth.
The way I read his post is that IF (and that is a big if) there is a problem, then heads are replaced. I haven't read anywhere that he said it is a wide spread problem. What was said is that in the case it is a problem, it is significant. Seems fair to me.
And I don't think that you have to own a particular product to intelligently comment on it if you have done your research. For example, I have never played NFL football, but I do feel competent to comment on the sport.
My response to the OP's question is that I would not be afraid to get a EcoBoost and tow what he is suggesting (especially if he has the max tow package).
I am not a "Ford guy", but if I were looking at an F150, the EcoBoost would be the engine I would chose. In my mind, the engine has some drawbacks, but those are not related to reliability or its ability as a towing engine.
