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bmanning
Feb 13, 2014Explorer
FWIW, it's not as if Toyota tried and failed to compete in the HD pickup market. They were savvy, realized that it's a very small market segment that is already dominated by a very loyal (myopic?) demographic, and wisely didn't waste time and money engineering a 3/4 or 1-ton.
We on this forum are huge fans of HD pickups so it's very easy to forget that it's virtually the definition of a niche market. I don't know the exact numbers (perhaps someone does and will post them) but 3/4-1ton pickups are a pretty small percentage of overall pickup sales.
As far as "competing" in the half-ton segment, it depends upon how we define "compete." They don't compete as far as sales numbers go but they were the only manufacturer on board from day 1 with standardized tow ratings. Toyota bashers love to gloss over that one, just like the anti-Toyota crowd ignores the fact that they also put out a drivetrain 7 model years ago that still is competitive with other half-ton offerings.
We on this forum are huge fans of HD pickups so it's very easy to forget that it's virtually the definition of a niche market. I don't know the exact numbers (perhaps someone does and will post them) but 3/4-1ton pickups are a pretty small percentage of overall pickup sales.
As far as "competing" in the half-ton segment, it depends upon how we define "compete." They don't compete as far as sales numbers go but they were the only manufacturer on board from day 1 with standardized tow ratings. Toyota bashers love to gloss over that one, just like the anti-Toyota crowd ignores the fact that they also put out a drivetrain 7 model years ago that still is competitive with other half-ton offerings.
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