2016 vs. 2017 F150 EcoBoost

Every thing costs too much these days. Folks are going deep into debt to buy
vehicles that used to cost a fraction of these new prices. I saw a bass
boat with payments spread out over fifteen years so the sticker had monthly
payments instead of final cost to own this boat. It caught my attention of
coarse then I read the small print. If you hit the lottery, bought Amazon for
$30.00/share or found a gold mine go for it but for the rest of us its sticker
shock gone ballistic. With all the manufacturers moving to Mexico and China
you would think the prices would hold, not so the price of my TV went from
50 grand to seventy when they moved to Mexico from Janesville Wis.
I guess American wages was not the problem. Another way to look at this is to take
out huge loans and complete your bucket list. You can't take it with you but
you can leave it behind.
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It appears Mr. Truck loves the new 10 speed transmission.

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Here's Mr Truck's video...

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My '98 Ranger, '97 F350 and '05 E350 are/were all XL trucks and my '92 F350 is a Custom, which became the XL trim level in later years. My Tacoma is similar trim level as an XLT Ford but still has manual windows and door locks.

For those that don't want a high end truck can always get a basic XL truck.

My last 2 trucks have been XLT's and my current truck is a Lariat. I've been really enjoying the extra create comforts, leather seats, back up camera, quitter cab, etc...

I had 2 top of the line trucks, for their day. I had a '77 Chevy Silverado (this was back when Silverado was a trim package, not a truck model), and an '82 GMC Sierra Grande. My dad had a '73 Chevy Cheyenne Super, which was top of the line in the years before they called it Silverado. Those were the top trim levels from Chevy and GMC back then.

All 3 trucks were lavishly equipped with such amenities as-

Cloth bench seat
Carpet
Headliner
Door panels with pockets
Tinted glass
Sliding rear window
AM/FM radio with 2 speakers
Radio antenna in the windshield
Air conditioning
2-speed wipers
Chrome bumpers and mirrors
Chrome trim on the body
Tilt wheel
Auto tranny
Chrome hub caps
Rear view mirror with the day/night flip lever
Dual gas tanks, with switch on dash
and not much else

For a pickup, this was really livin, back then. None of them had power windows or locks, or cruise control. The 'gauge package' consisted of a tach and a volt meter and oil pressure guage, instead of idiot lights.

We had to deal with such nightmarish inconveniences as-

If you needed to sit closer the wheel and pedals, you reached under the seat, pulled the lever, and pushed the seat forward with your body.

If it was too cold or hot, you either opened or closed the window with the crank, or reached up to the dash and pulled the lever for heat or a/c.

If the radio was too loud or you didn't like the station, you turned the radio dials until you found what you like. If you didn't find anything you like, you turned it off and thought about something else.

If the mirrors were pointing so you couldn't see, you opened the window, grabbed the mirror and pulled it into position. If it was the right mirror, you had your passenger pull it into position.

When you left your vehicle to go to the store, you made sure you had your keys in your hand and pushed down on the lock button before shutting the door, and told your passenger to do the same. When you returned, you put your key in the door lock and turned it, then pushed the door handle button to open the door. If you had a passenger, you reached across and pulled the lock button up. If your passenger was a lady, you unlocked and opened her door first, then went around and got in your own door. If she was a cool lady, she would reach across and pull your door lock button up, so you didn't have to use your key in the lock.

If it was a cold morning, you went out to the truck, pulled the choke cable, turned the key, pushed the gas pedal and started the engine, then went back in the house while the truck warmed up, or we sat in the truck with a coat on.

We had to check our tire pressure once in a while, with a gauge that you keep in the glovebox and hold in your hand and push it onto the tire valve and read the stick (or dial if the gauge was fancy).

Oh the horrors that we had to go through performing these cave man like tasks to drive our trucks! What a shame! Such neanderthals we must have been! :r

Oh, and a top of the line Chevy Silverado 4x4 3/4-ton Camper Special cost $5000 in 1977 and a top of the line GMC dually wasn't much more than that in 1982...

Best bang for the buck truck I've owned is my 12 Ram ST 2500 4x4 CC LB Cummins. I've got all the necessary things I need and for me anyway it's surprisingly comfortable with no power seat adjustments. I paid $36,000 OTD for it. I get that the high end trucks are pretty nice, but I'd rather dump my money somewhere else.

And, for the record, while not a truck, our friends just bought a GMC Acadia fully loaded, even more loaded than mine. They paid close to 50k, so it's not just Ford jacking the prices. I think as long as they keep offering really low rates, people will pay the high prices.

I friggen love the EcoBoost in my 2016 Explorer Sport. My previous vehicle was an Edge with the 3.5 v6 and it felt like a complete dog compared to this thing.

And yeah, I spend a lot of time in my vehicle, my commute to work is 60 miles round trip and we use my vehicle for pretty much every outing that doesn't involve our camper, so I like all the creature comforts that came with my SUV, and was willing to play the 40k+ to get them. Our 350 is a Platinum Edition and while all the bells and whistles sound silly (like AC seats), they sure are nice to have :-D

IdaD and spoon, couldn't agree more. But then I'm probably weird.
Give me a bare bones truck with just power windows, locks and cruise. Especially rubber floors. Carpet has no place in a real truck. What's everyone, myself included do?
Get a truck with carpet and then spend $200 in custom rubber floor liners to keep the carpet clean!
BUT in the stripped down truck, I want factory driving lights and good King Ranch type leather seats!