2017 F350 dually with 6.7 opinions

You really need to drive them to see the difference.

Either one will be a good truck for you. Just a matter of which one you like better.

Another vote for "drive them both". Pretty early for any reliability reports on the 2017 Ford, as it's a new model. Probably not a bad choice between the two, so buy the one that you like the best, and that you get the best deal on. They're your dollars, so no one's opinion but yours really matters.

DakotaDad wrote:
Another vote for "drive them both". Pretty early for any reliability reports on the 2017 Ford, as it's a new model. Probably not a bad choice between the two, so buy the one that you like the best, and that you get the best deal on. They're your dollars, so no one's opinion but yours really matters.

I guess opinion is not what I'm really looking for, power and torque are not as important to me as gas mileage and reliability. I'm seeking actual truck owners who can provide inputs in those areas. I know 2017 trucks are new but their drive-trains has been around for a few years. The cummins B series, 6.7L engine has been around since 2007 and the powerstroke 6.7L, has been around since 2011. i know the PS will see some changes for 2017 but the engine series should shed some light to reliability issues.

The Ram should be cheaper to buy and based on what Ram owners tell me, the Cummins will do slightly better on fuel. The power train of all three are very reliable. I think it will be interesting what the new Duramax is going to achieve for fuel economy. How many miles do you expect to put on your truck in a year?

I found that fuel mileage really does not matter much to me. I spend more on insurance than on fuel, considering I only averaged about 5,000 miles a year on my motorhome. I bought gas, as I really did not want to deal with the huge oil changes on the Cummins or Ford diesels of the time.

If you need the power, then diesel is probably more a requirement, than a option. Both make a equal huge amount of power compared to what was around in 1994. Back then it was acceptable to drive up the hills at 40 MPH, while now it seems that the owner is upset if taking a 6% grade at less than 55 MPH and not being able to run the A/C at the same time is just not right.

The Cummins has the Bosch CP3 high pressure fuel pump, the Ford still uses the CP4 series fuel pump. The CP4 series has a higher rate of failure, and those failures tend to take out other components downstream. Google Ford CP4 failures, you'll see.

I believe Ford uses the CP4.2 now, which is proving less fail prone... but it still has issues. GM is rumored to be moving away from Bosch for their next redesign, so that leads me to believe that GM doesn't feel that the new version is reliable enough.

Also, I know that 2016 and older Ford's required removal of the cab if you had a major engine repair. Just another expense to incur in the unlikely chance that something happens to your engine.

If you aren't concerned with the fuel pump issues, I don't know of anything else about the Ford to be concerned about. My cousin has a 2011 and loves it. Its a farm truck, so he beats the snot out of it and often times doesn't allow it to get up to full operating temp for long periods. He has not had any issues with it. My friend just bought a 2016 and he loves it too. TONS of power, WAY better mileage than his 6.0 that it replaced. Very comfortable ride.

I can't imagine that you would be upset with either product. Just be aware that the Ram is the slowest of the three trucks though. If you are buying a truck to race around in, you probably would be unhappy with the Cummins. The Powerstroke (and Duramax) are both quicker engines.

Good luck!

You're buying a diesel DRW and worried about fuel mileage?...

Spoon, CP4.2 is a two cylinder pump. CP4.1 is a one cylinder pump, think VW. The CP4.2 went on the PS in 2011. It was had some reliebility upgrades over time. Chris

mbrower wrote:
I guess opinion is not what I'm really looking for, power and torque are not as important to me as gas mileage and reliability.

The 6.7 gets 0 mpg on gas.