2017 F350

4x4ord wrote:

4X4Dodger wrote:
What puzzles me about Ford since they dropped the 7.3L International engine is this:

They have had continual engine issues with their diesels and continue to change/tweak them constantly. Some years it must be said have a very bad reputation (warranted or not)

So why on earth havn't they made a deal with CAT to produce a really good engine similar to the Cummins for light duty trucks?

That CAT badge on the fender would not only look good but hark to a solid reputation for near perfect dependability.

I like Fords and even though I have a Dodge...it was because of the Cummins engine. If Ford had had a similar CAT I would possibly have bought that...or at least given it consideration.

This seems like a no-brainer marketing decision to me.

PS: And when Mack decides to make a pickup...well the big three will all be in big trouble.

I think Ford has got the pickup truck powertrain figured out. If given an opportunity to buy a new Ford with either the Cummins or Powerstroke engine I think I would choose the Powerstroke. Although if the Cummins proved to be better on fuel than the Powerstroke I might be swayed the other way.

With all due respect, the Powerstroke is much better than previous engines to be but it still has a few glitches that can be major if they occur (the CP4 failure is one of the bigger ones). They are also such a complex engine that long term ownership costs will certainly be higher than the Cummins. Personally I would choose the Cummins hands down over the Powerstroke in a Ford if the choice was there.

If Ford had started putting the Cummins in their trucks back in 1989 as Dodge did, there is no doubt in my mind that Dodge trucks would be extinct!