2017 Ford Super Duty Review: First Drive

spoon059 wrote:

patriotgrunt wrote:
And by the 2nd post the Ram mafia showed up talk **** about Ford. It's amazing you point fingers because you're one of the worst brand bashers on this site. Why are you here to discuss Ford trucks when clearly you favor Ram and will always favor Ram? Are you adding to the discussion and simply trolling?

Okay... we'll take this point by point... Here is the 2nd post;

IdaD wrote:
It still has the CP4 issue in the diesels but other than that it's going to be an awesome truck overall. The chassis upgrade alone is huge. The 2016 and earlier Super Duty's felt incredibly dated from behind the wheel in terms of stiffness and the ride/handling balance because there was so much frame flex. It has amazing power numbers but none of the big diesels could be called deficient in that regard these days.

So IdaD points out that Ford still uses the CP4.2 pump that is a known weak spot. Then he says its going to be an "awesome" truck. He compliments the upgraded chassis then gives credit to the amazing power numbers. I guess making a truthful comment about a known troublesome fuel injector that Ford has not stood behind is considered to be "talking trash (more polite word than you used) about Ford"??? Seems to be a stretch.
Second point, I don't "favor" any truck over the other. You might want to take a look through my posts before you hurt yourself jumping to conclusions. I owned and loved a Ford F150. I owned and loved a Toyota Tundra. I currently own and love my Ram. Furthermore, did you even read my post? I am highly complimentary of this new truck and I think that Ford has greatly improved upon the already highest selling truck. Regardless of what truck I own, am I not allowed to read and comment in threads about other trucks? Again, I hope you don't hurt yourself, this time from falling off your high horse.
Final point... did you even read my post? I asked on-topic questions about the new truck, gave praise for what appears to be a great and innovative platform and said I couldn't wait to see them in person.

How is that negative, trolling or "favoring Ram"? I am far from a loyal brand truck owner. These things are pieces of metal that I use to move my camper from one campsite to the next. I have no emotional attachment and buy the best price I can afford in my pricepoint that meets my needs. Who knows, my next truck might very well be a Ford. I guess I should feel ashamed for reading and inquiring about them... Next time I will seriously consider requesting your permission.

By the way, did you ever wonder why very few Ford owners are willing to stand with Fish and his trolling nonsense? All of the accusations that you pointed at me are quite true about your buddy Fishie. Read some of my posts... read some of his posts... see if you don't agree with me.

I'd be willing to bet that you either don't even reply to my post or else you fail to address 99.9% of my points.

If you take a look at the posts, the Ram mafia and/or other brand owners are the first to start slinging mud. Take a look at the third post. Fish simply came on here and offered his perspective after the shooting war had begun. I honestly don't know your history or even care but don't act like the Ram mafia is the virgin Mary in here.

As for the CP4 issues, again this is very over blown. It's not a prevalent of an issue as many people on this site make it out to be. In fact the same crowd always starts this argument anytime someone talks about Chevy/GMC or Ford.