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FishOnOne wrote:
Yes the 10 speed was a joint effort design with Ford introducing this tranny in the F150 and Chevy introducing it in the Camaro. From what I've read it appears to be a very smooth shifting transmission that's always in the right gear which maximizes engine power and efficiency. It sounds like a very good engineered transmission.
I have been impressed with the 10 speed. I never got the "hunting for gears" feeling. At lower throttle positions you don't even really notice it shifting. In harder accelerations nice firm shifts.- Hmmm... That grill kind of looks like its bowtie competition to me.
Lessmore wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
It looks like a very nice truck, but why so many entry level powerplant changes? My 2012 F-150 work truck has a 3.7L V6 which is a very nice smooth engine; it was replaced by a 3.5L V6 which is now being replaced by a 3.3L V6.
Is Ford saying these previous engines weren't good? In my mind, consumer confidence and brand name loyalty is supported by long term, venerable powerplants and this does not seem to fit. :h
When your the #1 selling truck for 40 years.... It's what you do! :B
Seriously though the 2.7 EB and the 5.0 are upgraded engines with a duel fuel system (direct injection and port injection) on both of these like the second gen 3.5 EB and the 3.3 is an upgraded version of the 3.5/3.7 engine but also includes a duel fuel system as well. The changes are to improve fuel economy and power. The auto industry has to meet the upcoming CAFE fuel economy improvements and your not going to meet that goal by sticking with old tech.
Also the 10 speed transmission will be available in the all engine configs except the 3.3L.
That 10 speed transmission seems like an excellent tranny. I understand it is co-effort development by Ford and GM...a number of Ford and GM rear drive vehicles will get this transmission. One of our vehicles is a 2015 front wheel drive...it uses a 6 speed automatic. I understand this FWD transmission is also the result of joint GM/Ford development and this transmission is also in a number of both Ford and GM front drivers.
I think we are going to see more jointly developed products by Ford and GM in the future. Tremendous costs, regulatory demands are probably the chief motivation.
Yes the 10 speed was a joint effort design with Ford introducing this tranny in the F150 and Chevy introducing it in the Camaro. From what I've read it appears to be a very smooth shifting transmission that's always in the right gear which maximizes engine power and efficiency. It sounds like a very good engineered transmission.- I agree that frequent changes are a positive indication that they are aggressively engineering. I also think its the future...technology is moving exponentially, why wouldn't we see it in engines?
I love my "old" 3.5, but very much intrigued at the new ones! I usually hold on to vehicles for the long term, but they are getting so expensive that I may start trading while mine has stronger value. FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
It looks like a very nice truck, but why so many entry level powerplant changes? My 2012 F-150 work truck has a 3.7L V6 which is a very nice smooth engine; it was replaced by a 3.5L V6 which is now being replaced by a 3.3L V6.
Is Ford saying these previous engines weren't good? In my mind, consumer confidence and brand name loyalty is supported by long term, venerable powerplants and this does not seem to fit. :h
When your the #1 selling truck for 40 years.... It's what you do! :B
Seriously though the 2.7 EB and the 5.0 are upgraded engines with a duel fuel system (direct injection and port injection) on both of these like the second gen 3.5 EB and the 3.3 is an upgraded version of the 3.5/3.7 engine but also includes a duel fuel system as well. The changes are to improve fuel economy and power. The auto industry has to meet the upcoming CAFE fuel economy improvements and your not going to meet that goal by sticking with old tech.
Also the 10 speed transmission will be available in the all engine configs except the 3.3L.
That 10 speed transmission seems like an excellent tranny. I understand it is co-effort development by Ford and GM...a number of Ford and GM rear drive vehicles will get this transmission. One of our vehicles is a 2015 front wheel drive...it uses a 6 speed automatic. I understand this FWD transmission is also the result of joint GM/Ford development and this transmission is also in a number of both Ford and GM front drivers.
I think we are going to see more jointly developed products by Ford and GM in the future. Tremendous costs, regulatory demands are probably the chief motivation.blofgren wrote:
It looks like a very nice truck, but why so many entry level powerplant changes? My 2012 F-150 work truck has a 3.7L V6 which is a very nice smooth engine; it was replaced by a 3.5L V6 which is now being replaced by a 3.3L V6.
Is Ford saying these previous engines weren't good? In my mind, consumer confidence and brand name loyalty is supported by long term, venerable powerplants and this does not seem to fit. :h
When your the #1 selling truck for 40 years.... It's what you do! :B
Seriously though the 2.7 EB and the 5.0 are upgraded engines with a dual fuel system (direct injection and port injection) on both of these like the second gen 3.5 EB and the 3.3 is an upgraded version of the 3.5/3.7 engine (essentially the same family) but also includes a dual fuel system as well. The changes are to improve fuel economy and power. The auto industry has to meet the upcoming CAFE fuel economy improvements and your not going to meet that goal by sticking with old tech.
Also the 10 speed transmission will be available in the all engine configs except the 3.3L.blofgren wrote:
It looks like a very nice truck, but why so many entry level powerplant changes? My 2012 F-150 work truck has a 3.7L V6 which is a very nice smooth engine; it was replaced by a 3.5L V6 which is now being replaced by a 3.3L V6.
Is Ford saying these previous engines weren't good? In my mind, consumer confidence and brand name loyalty is supported by long term, venerable powerplants and this does not seem to fit. :h
I think it has more to do with Ford being really aggressive towards meeting future fuel efficiency and CAFE standards. The smaller they can get their engines the better they can meet higher mileage requirements. Maybe these standards will loosen up once the new Trump administration takes over.- It looks like a very nice truck, but why so many entry level powerplant changes? My 2012 F-150 work truck has a 3.7L V6 which is a very nice smooth engine; it was replaced by a 3.5L V6 which is now being replaced by a 3.3L V6.
Is Ford saying these previous engines weren't good? In my mind, consumer confidence and brand name loyalty is supported by long term, venerable powerplants and this does not seem to fit. :h
