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goducks10 wrote:
blofgren wrote:
danrclem wrote:
If you like your CTD you can keep your CTD. ;)
I don't think anybody is trying to convince others to sell what they have and buy a 7.3. It's just another option and won't be right for everybody but will be right for some. I know I won't be buying one unless it's several years from now.
I absolutely intend on keeping my CTD until death do us part. The point I was trying to make is that 5 mpg (or possibly less towing a large fiver) will get old pretty quickly....
I get roughly 2 mpg less going from my 12 CTD to my 18 6.4 when towing. Where that comes into play is the smaller 32 gal tank. My Ram CTD had 35 gal
Not wanting to run either empty and figuring 5 gal for a cushion that gives me 315 miles for the CTD and 229 miles for the 6.4. Thats 86 miles a tank. Makes a big difference when you're in unfamiliar areas where fuel is uncertain. A few times we had 200 mile stretches with not knowing if some podunk town had gas. Gas Buddy wasn't always reliable.
On a 3200 mile trip this summer I found myself topping off the tank a 3/4 full a couple times just to be safe.
What are you pulling and exactly what mileage did you get with both trucks? Remember, that the 2013 and up CTD's run DEF which increased the fuel economy considerably. I get a solid 10-11 mpg pulling my 16k high profile fiver.
I top off my fuel tank a lot while towing as well; I find it much less stressful than worrying about making the next town. :)FishOnOne wrote:
danrclem wrote:
If you like your CTD you can keep your CTD. ;)
I don't think anybody is trying to convince others to sell what they have and buy a 7.3. It's just another option and won't be right for everybody but will be right for some. I know I won't be buying one unless it's several years from now.
This non sense started by someone who thinks their truck is the best by the best as usual attacking gas powered trucks. I thought he was going to ignore these Ike towing tests but I guess not.
There's a clear movement and a market for gas powered trucks in the medium duty market. One example the UPS trucks in my area appear to be all gas powered now.
Uh, Fish you may want to look back at your earlier posts to refresh your memory as to who started the nonsense....
I never said my truck is the best; I simply stated the major downside of any gas engine when pulling which is undeniable. If you look back through my posts over time, you will clearly see that I'm a big fan of the gas Ford engines; we have many of them at my work including V10's and the 6.2L and they have all been great workhorses. I fully expect the 7.3L to be just that as well and have stated that many times.
The 7.3L engine performed much better than expected and I totally commend it for that. If I was buying a new truck today, the 7.3L Ford would definitely be on my short list. Now back to your regularly scheduled agenda.....:RFishOnOne wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
danrclem wrote:
If you like your CTD you can keep your CTD. ;)
I don't think anybody is trying to convince others to sell what they have and buy a 7.3. It's just another option and won't be right for everybody but will be right for some. I know I won't be buying one unless it's several years from now.
This non sense started by someone who thinks their truck is the best by the best as usual attacking gas powered trucks. I thought he was going to ignore these Ike towing tests but I guess not.
There's a clear movement and a market for gas powered trucks in the medium duty market. One example the UPS trucks in my area appear to be all gas powered now.
UPS is going to CNG gas powered vehicles due to lower fuel cost and they can have onsite tanks, not gasoline.
Ok then said another way... They're moving away from diesel.
That is not true either because they are also using Cummins diesel CNG engines as well in their bigger trucks. Cummins Wesport is also working on a CNG version of the ISV 5.0L V8 because the ISB 6.7L CNG engine is too long to fit into there van trucks.FishOnOne wrote:
Good luck with that delete kit as they will soon be a figment of your imagination.
People said the same about race down pipes and catalysts for gas engines decades ago and you can still buy them today. Tuning to make more power in a gas engines emits more emissions into he air than stock form just like a diesel tune does. A good tuner can make a high powered "clean' tune meaning that no rolling coal even at wide open throttle.
Although, meeting with some of those people in the now about emissions law and the EPA at SEMA shows and APEX, technically you can also get fined for adding larger or more aggressive tires than stock to a vehicle since you are decreasing the vehicle's fuel economy therefor increasing its emissions. It has been said multiple times that this is eventually where the EPA wants to get to where a vehicle owner cannot change a single thing on their vehicle that will alter its stock emissions, tires included. They have already tried to introduce regulations to try and do this multiple times.
Since this they are getting nowhere going up against the aftermarket industry as a whole, they are currently using a divide and conquer approach to get there basically eliminating each industry one at a time so the largest will not have a leg to stand on with support from others. Once the diesel aftermarket is done then onto the gas aftermarket, and then others. The end goal is to not allow anyone to make any kind of alteration to their own vehicle.blofgren wrote:
danrclem wrote:
If you like your CTD you can keep your CTD. ;)
I don't think anybody is trying to convince others to sell what they have and buy a 7.3. It's just another option and won't be right for everybody but will be right for some. I know I won't be buying one unless it's several years from now.
I absolutely intend on keeping my CTD until death do us part. The point I was trying to make is that 5 mpg (or possibly less towing a large fiver) will get old pretty quickly....
I get roughly 2 mpg less going from my 12 CTD to my 18 6.4 when towing. Where that comes into play is the smaller 32 gal tank. My Ram CTD had 35 gal
Not wanting to run either empty and figuring 5 gal for a cushion that gives me 315 miles for the CTD and 229 miles for the 6.4. Thats 86 miles a tank. Makes a big difference when you're in unfamiliar areas where fuel is uncertain. A few times we had 200 mile stretches with not knowing if some podunk town had gas. Gas Buddy wasn't always reliable.
On a 3200 mile trip this summer I found myself topping off the tank a 3/4 full a couple times just to be safe.ShinerBock wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
danrclem wrote:
If you like your CTD you can keep your CTD. ;)
I don't think anybody is trying to convince others to sell what they have and buy a 7.3. It's just another option and won't be right for everybody but will be right for some. I know I won't be buying one unless it's several years from now.
This non sense started by someone who thinks their truck is the best by the best as usual attacking gas powered trucks. I thought he was going to ignore these Ike towing tests but I guess not.
There's a clear movement and a market for gas powered trucks in the medium duty market. One example the UPS trucks in my area appear to be all gas powered now.
UPS is going to CNG gas powered vehicles due to lower fuel cost and they can have onsite tanks, not gasoline.
Ok then said another way... They're moving away from diesel.FishOnOne wrote:
danrclem wrote:
If you like your CTD you can keep your CTD. ;)
I don't think anybody is trying to convince others to sell what they have and buy a 7.3. It's just another option and won't be right for everybody but will be right for some. I know I won't be buying one unless it's several years from now.
This non sense started by someone who thinks their truck is the best by the best as usual attacking gas powered trucks. I thought he was going to ignore these Ike towing tests but I guess not.
There's a clear movement and a market for gas powered trucks in the medium duty market. One example the UPS trucks in my area appear to be all gas powered now.
UPS is going to CNG gas powered vehicles due to lower fuel cost and they can have onsite tanks, not gasoline.- Here's a race in Motorhome style of a V10 6 speed vs a 7.3 6 speed. Looks like the 7.3's power maybe understated like the Power Stroke.
V10 vs 7.3
On a side note I'm surprised to see that bare chassis is made of galvanized steel. blofgren wrote:
minnow wrote:
blofgren wrote:
Except that it will get less than half the fuel economy of your CTD; I'll stick with the CTD thanks! ;)
And no DEF/SCR/DPF concerns and potential outrageous repair costs.
One emissions repair will pay for lots and lots of gasoline.
My truck will get deleted if and when that ever happens. It is used mostly for towing duties so my chances of that happening are much less than if it was a grocery getter.
Good luck with that delete kit as they will soon be a figment of your imagination.danrclem wrote:
If you like your CTD you can keep your CTD. ;)
I don't think anybody is trying to convince others to sell what they have and buy a 7.3. It's just another option and won't be right for everybody but will be right for some. I know I won't be buying one unless it's several years from now.
This non sense started by someone who thinks their truck is the best by the best as usual attacking gas powered trucks. I thought he was going to ignore these Ike towing tests but I guess not.
There's a clear movement and a market for gas powered trucks in the medium duty market. One example the UPS trucks in my area appear to be all gas powered now.
