2020 IKE raw and unedited

Huntindog wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

4x4ord wrote:


I take it you think the winning truck would be the one with the greatest cooling capacity. That could very well be. More than likely all the engineers, regardless of manufacturer, are using the same formulas to determine how much cooling they need per hp they are designing for. I'm sure Ford hasn't designed the Super Duty to only put out peak HP at sub freezing temperatures.

Not necessarily. It is becuase what is tied to the cooling system rather than the cooling system itself. The GM and Ram do not have their intercooler connected or reliant upon the coolant system even if temps got to 240F, it would have no effect on their intake temps like it would with the Ford. There is a direct correlation with intake temps and EGT's.

I also would not put it past any of the big three to only advertise peak power numbers that you would only get at certain conditions to win "best in class" titles if it meant selling more trucks. I don't think Cummins would do that which means Ram can't even if they wanted to. Defueling or reducing power to save the engine when temps get to high is nothing new. It happens to gassers all the time especially turbocharged gassers or N/A gassers that require premium fuel.

There is noting in the rule books that says Ford or any manufacturer cannot advertise short burst power levels. In fact, the SAE test is just that. A short burst runs to max rpm and back again. There is no sustained power level test when manufacturers perform the SAE power levels dynos. They can very well give you 475 hp for a short period of time then dial it back if temps get too hot and it would be 100% legal under advertising laws. I will say that even some emissions deleted 6.7L Powerstorkes probably could not sustain 475 hp pulling the Ike under that load so how they got an emissions intact truck to do it is beyond me.

SAE does set the parmeters for the dyno test, and in order to advertise the power numbers as SAE, they must use an SAE witness for the test.

While you can argue about the validity of this... It doesn't apply to Ford. As far as I know Ford still doesn't do SAE dyno testing.
So they can make up any rules they want.

I don't think you understand what I was saying. It doesn't matter who has a witness or not. The test itself has many correction factors built into it that the manufacturers can take advantage of (witness or not) and it is only a short burst power being tested, not sustained power.