2021 Ram 3500 H.O.

ShinerBock wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
Actually Shiner having the highest tow rating is of no value to me, nor is highest torque rating. I just put my order in this morning for a new second place Ford. As it turned out I never set foot in a dealership but just picked the one that offered the best price. If I need faster 0-60 times I’ll take the Civic.

It is hard to believe this given the "It might be a bit of a stretch to expect it to compete with the Powerstroke" comment. I have noticed that you tend to say you aren't a fan boy or do not care about such things yet turn right around and say things like this or tout highest power and towing numbers of your favorite brand that you so happen to name yourself after. I named myself Shiner bock because it is my favorite beer and I will admit that I am biased to the taste of it over other beers.

So you can say this, but your other statements made in other threads and even in this one have lead me to believe otherwise.

My comment regarding the 6 speed Ram keeping up with the 10 speed competition was mainly pointing out that with 1075 lbft of torque and 400 peak hp at 2800 rpm the Cummins has such a sharp torque rise that it has no need for ten gears. There is quite a difference between the torque curve of the Ram vs the Duramax. Much of the rpm range of the Duramax it will be producing less torque than the Cummins but at higher rpm the Duramax will make more. Compared to the Ford, the Cummins is able to make a little more torque than the Powerstroke bellow 1750 rpm. (At 1750 the two engines are likely equal) The comment about being a bit of a stretch to expect the Cummins to keep up to the Powerstroke is just recognizing that above 1750 rpm the Powerstroke continues to hold a higher level of torque and by 2800 rpm it is making about 140 lbft more than the Cummins produces at that rpm. Because the Ram only has 6 gears it will likely use a greater portion of the engine’s power curve than what the Ford is programmed to use ..... so even though the Ford produces a lot more torque at 2500 - 3000 rpm than does the Cummins it likely seldom runs there anyway.