2021 Ram 3500 H.O.

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

We now know that the '17 truck was slower due to transmission gear selection/gearing. It was slow from the start so defueling was not the issue like you were mentioning back then.

Right. Is that the same thing that happened in 2018 when they towed 28.5k on the same day(in hotter weather than 30F)? Rated at 65 more horsepower, the 450 hp PSD that got 11:43 should have mopped the floor with the 385 hp Cummins that got 11:41.

2018 Ram 3500 HD vs 2018 Ford F350 vs World’s Toughest XXL Towing Test (Video)

Like I said, tow the same trailer in the same condition at temps above 60F or 80F and those high power levels cannot be sustained like they can in 30F. Although the 2020 does have the edge with the 10-speed.

EDIT: Although I will say that a trans not holding gears or shifting too much is a good indicator that the engine is defueling.

Yeah it's the same thing when the 2015 Ram fan kicked on at (19:20) when pulling a load but the other brands didn't. So I guess since the rams fan kicked on, and with slower times it must have defueled. Who would have thought...LOL

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Exactly, that is just what I have been stating. All modern computer controlled diesel engines have parameters to defuel the engine if different temps get too hot or things like turbo speeds get too fast. Some more than others or at different temps than others. For example, I can pull a load at a high power level in the morning with the Texas winter temps at 40F, but later in the day when the temps get up to 75F I may not be able to hold the same power level. If you read my posts in this thread, nowhere did I ever state that it is just the Powerstroke that has to defuel. This is not a brand bias thing. So I am not sure why the LOL.....