6.4 Hemi Ram 2500 or 6.2L F-250

Good luck on your decision Kaboom. I got to say I like that Tradesman in white with the black grill, looks tough imo. Anyway, both nice trucks and your not going to go wrong with either one.

FishOnOne wrote:
And before you slurp even more nonsense we all know that there's no truck assembled with 100% American made parts, but it's a very easy search to see Ford comprises it's truck with the highest percentage of US made parts.

Fish

Fish, Ford has only been #1 for a couple of years. I wouldn't suggest you read my signature...

Bionic Man wrote:

Mike Up wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

Do you feel the same about CAW? I have as our tow vehicle a union built in Kentucky F250. My fun vehicle is an American made union built Harley. I've bought many union built in America vehicles over the years. If Ford would have offered the Focus in a hybrid, I would have chose it over the Prius in a heartbeat. I buy American union made when it's offered and it's what I want. If not, I'll support labor unions in other countries.

I'm in the USW and yes, I support American Union made overall. I support none union, American Made on a secondary level. I do support Canadian made on a third level. I don't support other foreign made vehicles at all.

I made the mistake of buying a GM foreign made sports car and seen how poorly it was assembled. At the time, I didn't realize it was made in Mexico, and wouldn't had bought it if I did. I foolishly thought that a Chevy would be an American made car. MY BAD.

Didn't realize that the Dodge Ram 2500/3500 were made in Mexico. To bad, I'll have to re-evaluate and may look at a F250 with 4.30 even closer now. Never heard of an American work truck made in a foreign country. Guess that's why my employer usually has Ford F250/F350/F450 vehicles and Chevy Silverado 2500/3500s.

What does your employer use for computers, cell phones, etc.? Like it or not, it is a world economy.

BM,
We all know the answer to that and that's no excuse to not buy an American made product by an American company when available which your truck doesn't comply to neither. Whenever I shop no matter what the product is I always look to see where the product is made and if I see "Made in the USA" that's the one I grab. And before you slurp even more nonsense we all know that there's no truck assembled with 100% American made parts, but it's a very easy search to see Ford comprises it's truck with the highest percentage of US made parts.

Too bad others like yourself continue to push the foreign brand.

BTW... Sergio Marchionne and Enrique Pena Nieto thanks you! :R
Fish

Mike Up wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

Do you feel the same about CAW? I have as our tow vehicle a union built in Kentucky F250. My fun vehicle is an American made union built Harley. I've bought many union built in America vehicles over the years. If Ford would have offered the Focus in a hybrid, I would have chose it over the Prius in a heartbeat. I buy American union made when it's offered and it's what I want. If not, I'll support labor unions in other countries.

I'm in the USW and yes, I support American Union made overall. I support none union, American Made on a secondary level. I do support Canadian made on a third level. I don't support other foreign made vehicles at all.

I made the mistake of buying a GM foreign made sports car and seen how poorly it was assembled. At the time, I didn't realize it was made in Mexico, and wouldn't had bought it if I did. I foolishly thought that a Chevy would be an American made car. MY BAD.

Didn't realize that the Dodge Ram 2500/3500 were made in Mexico. To bad, I'll have to re-evaluate and may look at a F250 with 4.30 even closer now. Never heard of an American work truck made in a foreign country. Guess that's why my employer usually has Ford F250/F350/F450 vehicles and Chevy Silverado 2500/3500s.

What does your employer use for computers, cell phones, etc.? Like it or not, it is a world economy.

Mike Up wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

Do you feel the same about CAW? I have as our tow vehicle a union built in Kentucky F250. My fun vehicle is an American made union built Harley. I've bought many union built in America vehicles over the years. If Ford would have offered the Focus in a hybrid, I would have chose it over the Prius in a heartbeat. I buy American union made when it's offered and it's what I want. If not, I'll support labor unions in other countries.

I'm in the USW and yes, I support American Union made overall. I support none union, American Made on a secondary level. I do support Canadian made on a third level. I don't support other foreign made vehicles at all.

I made the mistake of buying a GM foreign made sports car and seen how poorly it was assembled. At the time, I didn't realize it was made in Mexico, and wouldn't had bought it if I did. I foolishly thought that a Chevy would be an American made car. MY BAD.

Didn't realize that the Dodge Ram 2500/3500 were made in Mexico. To bad, I'll have to re-evaluate and may look at a F250 with 4.30 even closer now. Never heard of an American work truck made in a foreign country. Guess that's why my employer usually has Ford F250/F350/F450 vehicles and Chevy Silverado 2500/3500s.

There has been absolutely nothing wrong with the assembly, fit and finish and operation of my Dodge/Ram for the last 11 years. Oh by the way if your employer has the 6.7L diesels in his Ford trucks they are assembled in Mexico. Also maybe you better look to see how many foreign educated engineers, production workers work for Ford or any other manufacture. Just food for thought.

Mike Up wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

Do you feel the same about CAW? I have as our tow vehicle a union built in Kentucky F250. My fun vehicle is an American made union built Harley. I've bought many union built in America vehicles over the years. If Ford would have offered the Focus in a hybrid, I would have chose it over the Prius in a heartbeat. I buy American union made when it's offered and it's what I want. If not, I'll support labor unions in other countries.

I'm in the USW and yes, I support American Union made overall. I support none union, American Made on a secondary level. I do support Canadian made on a third level. I don't support other foreign made vehicles at all.

I made the mistake of buying a GM foreign made sports car and seen how poorly it was assembled. At the time, I didn't realize it was made in Mexico, and wouldn't had bought it if I did. I foolishly thought that a Chevy would be an American made car. MY BAD.

Didn't realize that the Dodge Ram 2500/3500 were made in Mexico. To bad, I'll have to re-evaluate and may look at a F250 with 4.30 even closer now. Never heard of an American work truck made in a foreign country. Guess that's why my employer usually has Ford F250/F350/F450 vehicles and Chevy Silverado 2500/3500s.

I've been a union member for 34 years. I appreciate your hard line stance. However, if the US doesn't offer a particular product I want, such as my MacBook, Dell, Motorola cell, iPhone, Samsung Note3, or anything that compares favorably to the Prius, I will supplement my union built F250 with a union made Prius from one of our best neighbors on this planet.

Mike Up wrote:
Never heard of an American work truck made in a foreign country. Guess that's why my employer usually has Ford F250/F350/F450 vehicles and Chevy Silverado 2500/3500s.

GM trucks (Silverado/Sierra) are now made in Silao, Mexico. That plant had been making the full size SUVs (Suburban, Tahoe, Yukon, Yukon XL) but that production moved to Arlington TX in 2013. My 01 Suburban was made in Silao and I've never had any issues related to quality of assembly.

Mike Up wrote:

hondapro wrote:

I haven't found a hill here in Pa that I can't maintain the speed limit when towing,sometimes it drops to 3rd gear and rpms go to 4500 it pulls fine.

Better than the mid 90's International 4700/4900 Crew trucks I drove, pulling backhoes up small hills. Hek, sometimes my speed dropped to only 45 mph with the pedal to the floor.

I'm going to make up my mind by this weekend. Here is the Ford:



the specs on the Ford I drove Wednesday were:

2015 F250 XLT CCSB $37,600 after rebates (msrp $45,205)

6.2
3.73
black side steps
upfitter switches
isync radio
xlt interior package
tow mirrors
brake controller
drop in bed liner

I'm pretty much leaning toward the 15 f250xlt 6.2/3.73 that I test drove last Wednesday.. the off the line power didn't strike me as anything "exciting" but if it is truly a work horse and actually get's better when working, then I'm fine with that as I drive very conservatively most of the time anyway.

I'm going to test drive one last Ram 2500 before making up my mind...



This one is: $34,200 (after rebates) (msrp $43,060)
2014 2500 CCSB ST tradesman (no chrome bumpers or grille)
6.4
4.10's
wheel to wheel side steps
5.0 touchscreen radio
spray in bed liner
trailer brake controller
no tow mirrors
painted steel wheels

Yep, the Ford 6.7 is made in Mexico.

Mike Up wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

Do you feel the same about CAW? I have as our tow vehicle a union built in Kentucky F250. My fun vehicle is an American made union built Harley. I've bought many union built in America vehicles over the years. If Ford would have offered the Focus in a hybrid, I would have chose it over the Prius in a heartbeat. I buy American union made when it's offered and it's what I want. If not, I'll support labor unions in other countries.

I'm in the USW and yes, I support American Union made overall. I support none union, American Made on a secondary level. I do support Canadian made on a third level. I don't support other foreign made vehicles at all.

I made the mistake of buying a GM foreign made sports car and seen how poorly it was assembled. At the time, I didn't realize it was made in Mexico, and wouldn't had bought it if I did. I foolishly thought that a Chevy would be an American made car. MY BAD.

Didn't realize that the Dodge Ram 2500/3500 were made in Mexico. To bad, I'll have to re-evaluate and may look at a F250 with 4.30 even closer now. Never heard of an American work truck made in a foreign country. Guess that's why my employer usually has Ford F250/F350/F450 vehicles and Chevy Silverado 2500/3500s.

Make sure you never buy a Ford diesel then.