1320Fastback wrote:
We paid MSRP for our new Toyota Rav a few months ago. There is no haggling anymore.
Maybe, maybe not. The Ford dealer where we're ordering an F350 was a pleasant surprise when we were discussing price and they offered up a substantial discount from MSRP on their own. I asked the GM what he thought about some local dealers around the area tacking on what they call market surcharges or GFY pricing. He stated that's not the way they do business, they're still turning profit on the sale. Folks are fools who go in and unrealistically haggle expecting a dealer to sell at a loss.
Those types of dealers are almost impossible to find. I knew of another who was bought out by a mega dealer, which resulted in the instant elimination fair pricing as well as the elimination of a good chunk of previous customers.
What I am seeing with RVs is price gouging and it's not so much the dealers as it's starting at the manufacturer level. Those guys are not your friend nor will they ever be. It's a one of a kind special industry and always has been Now its on steroids. Hopefully energy costs, runaway inflation, etc soon slams the brakes on the party. It can't happen to a nicer load of crooks. When that happens the values are going to drop 3 times as fast as they increased, and all these folks buying them like hotcakes while financing them for 120, 180, 240 months are going to be left holding the bag.
