Acadia, traverse , enclave, strong sellers !

Ron3rd wrote:

bucky wrote:
It's a soccer mom vehicle if they can't or won't buy a Escalde/Denali/Tahoe. They are wonderful people movers, I'll leave it at that.

Not all soccer moms want that big of a vehicle, my retired soccer wife did not. Surprisingly, there's not a big difference in price between a Tahoe and Traverse. A loaded Traverse is about $42K sticker.

Having said that, we have the Tundra for towing and the Traverse to serve as people mover. It's a pretty good grocery getter too although my Tundra will hold more groceries and more cases of beer.

I would disagree on them being close. A loaded Traverse might be $42k (my reasonably optioned one was way less), but a base Tahoe starts there and a loaded Tahoe can top $70k. Even then it will only tow a couple thousand more pounds than the Traverse. It's certainly not a giant leap in towing capability for such a giant leap in price.

Hence, when my Traverse lease is up, I will be going back to a crew cab truck with a good tonneau cover.

I will have the seating I need, much more towing capacity, and a dry bed for storage. All for a little more than the Traverse, but less than a Tahoe.

Fordlover wrote:

rexlion wrote:
I have the similarly-sized Toyota Highlander (2008) and have towed with it for around 140,000 of its total 162,000 miles. The HL acts like it could go for another 162K. Not bad for a "car".

I imagine the Traverse and its sisters should be able to do about the same... despite the disadvantage of being GM products, lol. ;)

Zing!

Just think how many of this vehicle they would be selling if they still had Oldsmobile, Pontiac, SAAB, Saturn, Hummer etc. to prostitute the platform with badge engineering.

What's wrong with badge engineering ? Back in the 1960's my uncle and dad bought a new 1968 Mercury M 250 as their shop truck.

It was exactly the same as a '68 Ford F 250 and both would do the job.

It didn't matter whether it had a Mercury or Ford nameplate. It was a great truck...even though you might dismiss our old Merc, because it was badge engineered.

I don't understand your concern.

Search outlook, Acadia, traverse, enclave timing chain problems. Also look up how to change a headlight bulb on one. Not sure about the new ones, but older models the procedure was to remove the front wheels and fender liners, unbolt the fuse box, remove front bumper and grill to change the bulbs.

2500HDee wrote:

Ron3rd wrote:

easycamper wrote:

bucky wrote:
It's a soccer mom vehicle if they can't or won't buy a Escalde/Denali/Tahoe. They are wonderful people movers, I'll leave it at that.

Or if they won't buy a minivan, which are better people movers and just as good for towing. But good for GM that they sell so many of them.

The minivan is the best people mover ever conceived, the wife had a Caravan many years ago, it's just no soccer moms want to be seen in them anymore.

The lambdas are minivans without the sliding door. 3 rows of seats with seating for 8 and front or all wheel drive. They are not trucks and aren't really marketed as them.

Actually, the Traverse is deceptively long, about the same length as a minivan but with a more sloping roofline and third row seating. The 3 main contenders in this segment are the Highlander, Traverse, and Explorer.

Ron3rd wrote:

easycamper wrote:

bucky wrote:
It's a soccer mom vehicle if they can't or won't buy a Escalde/Denali/Tahoe. They are wonderful people movers, I'll leave it at that.

Or if they won't buy a minivan, which are better people movers and just as good for towing. But good for GM that they sell so many of them.

The minivan is the best people mover ever conceived, the wife had a Caravan many years ago, it's just no soccer moms want to be seen in them anymore.

The lambdas are minivans without the sliding door. 3 rows of seats with seating for 8 and front or all wheel drive. They are not trucks and aren't really marketed as them.

bucky wrote:
It's a soccer mom vehicle if they can't or won't buy a Escalde/Denali/Tahoe. They are wonderful people movers, I'll leave it at that.

Not all soccer moms want that big of a vehicle, my retired soccer wife did not. Surprisingly, there's not a big difference in price between a Tahoe and Traverse. A loaded Traverse is about $42K sticker.

Having said that, we have the Tundra for towing and the Traverse to serve as people mover. It's a pretty good grocery getter too although my Tundra will hold more groceries and more cases of beer.

easycamper wrote:

bucky wrote:
It's a soccer mom vehicle if they can't or won't buy a Escalde/Denali/Tahoe. They are wonderful people movers, I'll leave it at that.

Or if they won't buy a minivan, which are better people movers and just as good for towing. But good for GM that they sell so many of them.

The minivan is the best people mover ever conceived, the wife had a Caravan many years ago, it's just no soccer moms want to be seen in them anymore.

The wife has a Traverse and loves it, lots of room, excellent fit and finish. We would not tow anything with it but I guess you could if you wanted to.

Some people seem to feel that no one with hair on their chest would be caught dead towing with a unibody vehicle.

But, body-on-frame has been around since, what, the middle ages? :B So what if some of us bought something that's a little more 'Twenty-First Century' technology? :p LOL

Seriously though, unibody vehicles have good strength and great rigidity. With the right drive train, cooling, and hitch receiver connection, they could tow right up there with the HD pickups. Body-on-frame is not sprinkled with magic pixie dust.

rexlion wrote:
I have the similarly-sized Toyota Highlander (2008) and have towed with it for around 140,000 of its total 162,000 miles. The HL acts like it could go for another 162K. Not bad for a "car".

I imagine the Traverse and its sisters should be able to do about the same... despite the disadvantage of being GM products, lol. ;)

Zing!

Just think how many of this vehicle they would be selling if they still had Oldsmobile, Pontiac, SAAB, Saturn, Hummer etc. to prostitute the platform with badge engineering.