All electric vehicles?

RoyJ wrote:

Lantley wrote:
I think what's missing in all of this is the internal combustion engine is a dinosaur.
An electric engine is so much more efficient that we can now see the internal combustion method is obsolete!
Yes changing the infrastructure presents a few challenges, but that's the easy part.
Changing everyone's mindset will be harder than the actual physical / scientific changes.
We currently have the knowledge to make electric cars reality.
Implementing those changes will take time. But the days of the internal combustion engine are numbered.

No doubt the electric motor itself is vastly superior - just look at all the heavy equipment in the world: mining trucks, locomotives, cruise ships, military ships. Most of the time the actual wheels / props are driven by multi-phase electric motors.

However, the challenge is power density in batteries. IC engines are at the end of their run, but electric energy storage is at its infancy.

I know we can get a Tesla that goes 500 miles, but that takes $100k. Where-as a $15k Yaris also gets 500 miles. The day battery prices drop to the point where say for $20k you could get a sub-compact EV with 500 miles range, is when IC engines are truly dead.

Technically no. The max range of a model S (the 100,000 dollar Tesla) Max range is 340 miles. For 50,000 you can get one with 310 miles of range. But comparing a Tesla to a Yaris is a huge stretch. Tesla competes with Audi, BMW and Mercedes. Maybe high end Lincoln or Cadillac. A neighbour had put his name on a Lincoln. I suggested that we go for a quick burn in a model 3 Tesla. We did, he cancelled his Lincoln and is waiting for his model 3. He was stunned at the technology and performance. Nothing wrong with a Yaris but best to take a test drive to see the difference. Tesla’s are not economy cars and people don’t buy them for that reason but they are cheap to run and fuel. Lots to consider.