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pezvela
Explorer
Oct 02, 2013

Alternatives to free standing/perm, attchd shade structure?

I'm about ready to ditch my HEAVY, EZ-UP shade structure that I carry with me on my trips. It's just too heavy and is only water resistant.

I've looked at some of the lighter ones like the wings and the shock-corded ones but have nixed most due to either poor construction or extremely pricey.

I had this one idea but need help analyzing whether it is feasible and, if it is, how I would get the parts.

It goes like this. I'd love to find some thin, smooth "bolts" with a welded, washer-like base. The end of the "bolts" would have a hole drilled that a hitch pin could pass through.

With 3-4 of these adhered to each side of my camper roof, I could then attach a heavy duty, brown/silver tarp with grommets to these "bolts" and the hitch pins would keep the tarp in place.

On the ground side of the tarp, I'd go with 2-3 adjustable, tent poles with a thin, top post that would go through the grommets. These would, of course, have to be anchored to the ground with line and stakes.........but I am OK with that as we camp so infrequently on surfaces that would resist that.

The whole thing would probably cost less than 50 bucks and would probably weigh around 10-15 lbs. It would also roll up to a lot smaller than most other options.

Is this idea feasible? It would be pretty easy to drop the poles in a big wind and secure the tarp against the rig with chairs or an ice chest. Just leave the stakes in for when the wind passes. And those silver tarps ARE pretty waterproof.

I have an aluminum roof so I am intrigued by these new adhesives they are using to attach solar panel mounts to roofs.

The item I am having trouble locating are these "bolts" with the flat base and the hole for the hitch pins. I dont even know what to call these; hence the term "bolts" with the quotes.

Any suggestions on the design or where to secure these "bolts"?
  • RickW's avatar
    RickW
    Explorer III
    Consider using footman loops and short, ball bungies to attach the tarp grommets to the side of your TC.
  • You all are making it to complicated.



    I tied the tarp to the ladder in back and the bracket for the struts off the front. I used 2" pvc pipe for the post and 3/8" rope to tie every thing down. The tarp is from wally world and I have been through 3 of them. it holds most of the time. When I need to lower it no problem. Loosen the ropes and lay it against the truck.

    I can put it up by myself. simple and very cool in August on the beach. Because of me not able to bend over very well, I started using the cheep surf rod holders made from rebar. long and a lot easier.

    this is the best picture I have on photobucket.

    ps. the surf rod holders are for the tent spikes I was using.
  • wnjj wrote:
    pezvela wrote:
    Any suggestions on the design or where to secure these "bolts"?


    Are you talking about clevis pins?


    Yes, I guess I am but would like one with a much wider base/head than the ones shown in your example page.
  • I did some budget awnings a few years ago.

    Construction:

    One 10' length of 2" PVC pipe that acts as the outer support and "roller" similar to the manufactured awnings.

    Two 10' lengths of 3/4" steel conduit. Cut down to 7' long, flatten one end, and drill a 3/8" hole in the flattened part.

    Two 3/8"x2" carriage bolts, two matching regular nuts, four flat washers, and two matching wing nuts.

    Two 2" PVC pipe caps. Drill a 3/8" hole in the center of each cap. Install the carriage bolts with the threaded end out, with a flat washer and regular nut. Glue the caps on to the pipe.

    One 10'x8' silver tarp. Screw the tarp to the pipe with self-drilling lath screws and fender washers.

    I used small steel carabiners to attach the loose end of the tarp to the drip rail on my trailer. Unfurl the "awning," add the conduit legs, and tie down with rope and tent stakes. By angling the legs back toward the trailer, you can introduce a pitch to the tarp so water will run off.

    Works pretty good but it's awkward for one person. I actually went back to using an EZ-up.
  • I know that this is not exactly what the OP is talking about, but I wonder if its in the ballpark for the "bolts"? They are called "tire swivels" and used for swing sets.

  • wnjj's avatar
    wnjj
    Explorer II
    pezvela wrote:
    Any suggestions on the design or where to secure these "bolts"?


    Are you talking about clevis pins?
  • I have considered a simulat shelter/awning. To attach to the TC, my thought was to use 1/4" nylon rope. I think about three or four pieces. one end of each rope would tie to the tarp in the tarp eyes. Probably one on each end, with the others evenly spaced in the middle of the tarp. I would throw each of the ropes over the TC, and tie them to the truck or TC. Depending on thew tarp size, the ropes could be tied to the jacks.

    On the loose end of the 1/4" nylon rope, I would attach a tennis ball to each rope. Simply poke a hole throw the ball, insert the rope and tie the ball on. This would make it easier to throw the ball.

    On the ground side of the tarp I do as you indicated.

    Fact is, I do not remember camping where my EZup was right beside my TC. Seems like there is always some obstacle or exceptionally uneven ground beside the TC. My EZup is water proof.

    Wayne