Anyone towing with a 2.7 EcoBoost?

Two schools or directions here that should be discussed, IMHO

Forced induction of small displacement V6 ICE's. Direct injection gasser. Has a higher level of stresses and so far...seems like
this OEM has done their homework

NA of with variable mid displacement V8 ICE's. Direct injection
gasser. Lower...or traditional levels of stresses...maybe when
cylinders are deactivated...those working are at a higher level
of stress...but NOT to the levels of forced induction

Both will prove themselves over the long haul and IMHO...when they
need to be rebuilt will further prove themselves

Will the parts OEMs provide the specialized tooling for the highly
stressed components for them both?

Will their parts cost and process costs be similar...or will one
cost more?...how much more?

Will the machine shops and crate suppliers likewise cost similar...or
will one cost more?...how much more?

What about the rest of the vehicle...mainly the drive train...

Personally do NOT purchase for resale value, but what it will cost
in the long haul. Looooong haul as in decades

That depends on the overall volume and that has to do with the
popularity...that drives volume...that drives parts/services/etc
pricing decades later

Not saying Ecoboost is bad...just a wait and see...in and on "my"
metrics....IMHO of course

IdaD wrote:


Can it with the 2.7?

Sometimes diesel costs more than gas and sometimes it costs less. It always gives you better MPG and resale, though.

Yeah, the 2.7L can be optioned with a 37 gallon tank and the biggest tank you can get with the Ecodiesel is a 27 gallon tank.

It is true that most of the higher up front cost of the diesel will come out as a wash in resale, but I am one of those that think you should pay more for an engine to get more power and capability, not less.

BillyW wrote:
The price/gal gap used to be pretty large around here. It's almost gone now. 10 or 15 years ago it was in the other direction. Wonder what the future will bring in that regard? I don't think the math necessarily works out nearly as bad as itguy08 implies.

As far as how often you need to fill up, the F150 can be optioned with a much larger tank.

Can it with the 2.7?

Sometimes diesel costs more than gas and sometimes it costs less. It always gives you better MPG and resale, though.

The price/gal gap used to be pretty large around here. It's almost gone now. 10 or 15 years ago it was in the other direction. Wonder what the future will bring in that regard? I don't think the math necessarily works out nearly as bad as itguy08 implies.

As far as how often you need to fill up, the F150 can be optioned with a much larger tank.

APT wrote:
Diesel is about 10 cents per gallon less than 87 octane in my area today. Prices fluctuate seasonally as well as with location and the breeze. Typically in winter, itguy08's statement applies, just not today in Michigan.

I was more interested in the MPG difference irrespective of the fuel cost. Fuel costs fluctuate and than there is the psychology of filling up less frequently even if the net cost is the same.

Diesel is about 10 cents per gallon less than 87 octane in my area today. Prices fluctuate seasonally as well as with location and the breeze. Typically in winter, itguy08's statement applies, just not today in Michigan.

mich800 wrote:

Interesting videos. The one thing I would like to see just out of curiosity is what would the the 2.7 Ecoboost MPG be going up the pass at the Ram Ecodiesel speed? I doubt it would get anywhere near the diesel MPG but maybe the gap would close some.

There is no gap when you consider the added cost of a gallon of Diesel. The gap even goes in favor of gasoline when you do a TCO analysis and add up the more expensive maintenance of a Diesel.

As with most of the vehicles, it will do well when applied for the task it was designed for.

ShinerBock wrote:
Here is the 2.7L Ecoboost going up the Ike Gauntlet.

2015 Ford F-150 2.7L EcoBoost takes on the Grueling IKE Guantlet Towing Test Review



Here are other trucks towing the exact same load up the exact same road to compare.

2015 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel: Ike Gauntlet Extreme Towing Test

2015 GMC Sierra Denali 1500 6.2L takes on the Grueling IKE Gauntlet Towing Test Review

Interesting videos. The one thing I would like to see just out of curiosity is what would the the 2.7 Ecoboost MPG be going up the pass at the Ram Ecodiesel speed? I doubt it would get anywhere near the diesel MPG but maybe the gap would close some.

Wow...thanks for sharing Shinerbock,

I know that the pulls are unscientific but the little 2.7 was able to pull the Ike Gauntlett at the speed limit and the comments from Mr Truck saying he could have pulled it at 75 are telling.

The Ram EcoDiesel pulled it at 50 MPH...which is impressive considering it's only got 240 hp....

I know the 2.7 has 325 HP but it seems to perform very well...it pulled faster than the Tundra 5.7 with a similar load...the Tundra held 60 MPH up most of the gauntlet but it was giving the mountain everything it had.

Seems that these tests really illustrate how much of a benefit forced induction is for a truck at elevation.

Question...on the 2.7...why does it seem to pull harder than the 3.5 EcoBoost? I've heard that comment from the TFL guys and some other reviews...maybe the tq band and or HP is lower in the rpm range on the 2.7.

Thanks!

Jeremiah