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Danattherock
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Aug 19, 2015

Anyone towing with mild lift kit and larger tires?

Researching tow vehicle for first camper. Likely 3/4 ton longbed and 6.5-7k lb camper. We need good off road Performance for interests aside from camping so I researched this and talked with folks. Many had jacked up trucks with 37's and such.

But still, report good towing performance based on their feedback. I won't go to that extreme, but splitting middle of two vantage points if you will. Many say stock tires, and if you use off road tire or a lift kit, you will die. Which is ridiculous. The folks saying that are folks that have never towed with a lifted truck and bigger tires in my opinion.

Then again, I don't believe all that the young bucks propose either, jacked up 4-8" trucks with huge nobbies. They as a whole are buying this stuff for looks. I'm trying to factor in all opinions. That has me wanting custom wheels for wider rims, not just looks, to support 35x12.5x18 Cooper ST MAXX tires. Very good tow ratings on this tire as I can tell, but I'm new to this so research for yourself. Would value any feedback. Specs are on Cooper site.

A 2-4" suspension lift kit, and more commonly just a leveling kit is required to prevent any rubbing at full turn. I'm comfortable with either, but won't go beyond that due to possible handling issues, excessive raising of truck center of gravity, steering stabilizers often needed, compensatory stuff. But a mild suspension high quality lift or basic leveling kit with 35's I am feeling good about. This is based on a 3/4 ton truck. What's needed for clearance varies by make/model. Some get by with heavy duty front suspension or snow plow prep options.

The folks using ST MAXX I heard from are getting 40-50k per set, report low road noise, and good handling solo or towing. And great offroad performance of course, which is what motivates this compromise. I conceed it won't tow as well as a stock truck with highway tires. I just feel the degree to which this impacts towing is vastly overstated here, and elsewhere. We all have different needs, and highway tires won't be adequate for some of my interest.

18x9 or 18x10 wheels will avoid the marshmallo effect that many get when stuffing big tires on factory rims. This is a safety issue and would adversely effect towing performance in my opinion. I have no first hand knowledge and this could be a costly experiment. But I think that's unlikely. I'm willing to give the 35x12.5x18 a chance.

Would appreciate any feedback from folks actually towing with lifted trucks with bigger tires. I've read all the criticisms from folks about this from folks that only use stock ride height and tire sizes. If you have not towed with a lifted truck with bigger tires, you can't answer my question. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate and factor in that vantage point. But I'm in need of input from people actually towing with my intended lift and tire combo.


Dan

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  • I had a 1984 Chevy 4X4 2500 longbed & cab high campershell (cap). The truck was modified with an aftermarket 3 inch spring lift setup. The springs replaced the stock units and provided 3 inches of lift. The stock overload springs were retained but re-positioned to contact the new springs properly. The aftermarket springs were designed to lift while providing a soft ride compared to lift kits.

    I used 16 inch rims with 33inch mud & snow tires tires - wide but don't remember the width.

    My brother, a steel fabricator, took my stock equalizer hitch and added a new shank on top of the old to drop the hitch so my 23ft TT towed level.

    This whole setup towed beautifully. Very sable and the ride was very comfortable.
  • Navigator and Expedition seemed great. We just decided to go with 3/4 ton truck for increased payload, and safety margin. Also, the ability to carry our Sotar whitewater raft in bed short distances to/from river after unhooking the camper. Will transport to Smoky Mountains rolled up, and assemble at campground. But with SUV this won't be possible.


    Regarding warranty, nothing I'm doing will void warranty.


    Dan
  • What happened to the Navigator?

    You could pull that size trailer fine with a mild lift and 35s. The stock tires on my Ram are 33.2" and I bet you could run 35s without any lift, or at most just a front leveling kit. My only advice on lifting is to do it the right way and not the cheapest way. Once you narrow down a specific model, go to a message board for owners and find out the right way to do things.

    If you're lifting and driving offroad a lot I highly recommend a Ford or Ram over a GM. The SFA is stouter, performs better offroad and you should have fewer issues with it than you would with the IFS on the GM trucks. Plus if you go diesel, that DEF tank is just asking to get smashed. If you're going with a gas model I would highly recommend checking out the Powerwagon because you don't have to void a warranty to get the things you're wanting to add, and it performs well right off the lot (maybe the tires need to be upgraded, I'm not sure what they come with stock).
  • That's what I'm seeing as well. That's why many get heavy duty front suspension or snow plow prep, to clear in front.

    Good points about wheel ratings, will follow up on that. Fuel is wheel brand, Throttle is type, black with silver accents.

    Camper will be Airstream, likely 30' weighing in around 7k lbs, maybe slightly more loaded. Dual axles. Suspension, all I've read suggest a good towing trailer.

    Truck will be Ram mega cab 2500 or Chevy Silverado 2500 Duramax long bed.


    Wheel specs here... 18x9 or 18x10, or 20x9, 20x10. Unsure.

    Wheels

    Tire specs here... 290 or 305, 60/65, 18. Might look at 35x12.5x20's

    Tires


    Would appreciate any criticism or comment.



    Dan
  • What type of camper? will it be a travel trailer, popup, fifth-wheel?

    With a 5er, you could definitely have some issues possible, but with at TT or popup, i think you can easily accommodate lifting to some extent.

    I don't have a lift or over-sized tires, but my 14 Ram has 285/60-20's on it. They are 33.5" tall. I seriously think 35's would fit without any lift necessary on the rear and not much lift on the front.
  • Quite a few folks at our quad races pull campers with lifted trucks. I've heard of no issues at all. Of course, they all pretty much have to stick with TTs and no 5ers.

    I've heard good things from the Nittos. Good tread life and good E rating weights.

    Just don't forget the rims. If you plan to stay true to your GVWR numbers, make sure you're aftermarket wheels are up to the task. Many are not when it comes to E ratings.
  • I've towed quite a few miles with a stock 2006 Dodge Power Wagon on 35's - NEVER any issues with my old 6k bumper pull camper. These trucks come from the factory with a mild (~2" lift), agressive tires, sway bar disconnect and lockers..
  • Check wheel weight rating before you buy, most aftermarket wheels are a lot less not a little than factory. Also make sure the wheels are hub centric not lug centric that will effect your load rating also.