Are the HP wars over?
So I haven't been keeping up on the HP wars for years. So I had a little time today and was checking out the 2022 HP wars of the big 3 and was shocked at what I saw. Ford not only was on top but d...
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IdaD wrote:StirCrazy wrote:IdaD wrote:
Personally I think I'd buy a Duramax if I were buying a new 2022 and I'd give it the edge over the Cummins due to the transmission. PS would be third place. That said I'm happy with my 2015 and intend to keep it many more years.
if you buying for the transmition you better rethink it. the torqushift trans in the ford was spicificly built to out preform the allison in every area and it has. in the tech articles it is the best trans of the three, dodge having the worst. the best thing about the duramax is out of the box fuel mileage for me, for the dodge while its numbers are up there it isn't revy and feels anemic driving around town to the other two. I ended up buying the ford because it was the best truck for the price I could find (used trucks) and have been very happy with it.
Steve
The 68RFE is my trucks weak point, I won't argue that. The Ford and GM transmissions are both better, I don't know enough about either to say which is the best between the two. The Powerstroke is a POS with that CP4, though, so that's a hard pass for me. I would agree also that the Cummins feels the least responsive poking around town but strap on a bunch of weight and get on the highway and it more than holds its own. Also has by far the best exhaust brake of the three which is huge.
The Ford 6.7L used a modified CP4 starting in 2015 which employed a new coating on the pistons designed to reduce friction and help the pump survive small amounts of water. There were more modifications to the CP4 on the Ford engine in 2017. I don't think there has been a case of a CP4 failure since 2017. What I do find interesting is Ford's response to pre 2015 warranty claims - and frankly it's shameful - no argument there. Chevy moved away from the CP4 and so did Ram. But I think the newer designed CP4's, plus better water separators have addressed the issue. I have also seen aftermarket CP4 bypass kits but I would imagine they invalidate the warranty, but if Ford won't cover a failure anyway....
