Are You Buying All These Half-ton Claims?

JIMNLIN wrote:
Ford has advertised a 3100 lb payload for the older F150Hd 8200 GVWR models and now 3300 lb payload for the aluminum body truck.

Most F150HD folks may think they can carry 3100-3300 lbs in the bed ..WRONG !!!
Hell just simple math shows a F150HD with a 4800 RAWR may weigh say 2500 lbs on the rear which leaves 2300 lb payload before exceeding 4800 RAWR. The trucks rear axle/suspension now has a 800-1000 lb overload.

The payload sticker is a GVWR sticker which is derived from the front and rear axles.

A 3000 lb+ payload is in 3/4 ton truck arena with the 6000-6200 RAWR.

That 3300# Max Payload claim is for a 2015 4x2 RegCab with HD Payload option and 18" HD wheels. According to a leaked weight sheet, that truck has a rear GAWR of 4800 (just like the current HD Payloads) and a Min rear axle curb weight of 1840#. So your Max possible "rear axle payload" is 2957#. The other 343# to reach Max Payload should go on the front axle.

And of course these numbers are for a stripper model. Any options will reduce the Max payload and increase the Min curb weight.


With my 2011 F150 (non-HD Payload), I pull very close to the GVWR (7500#) and rear GAWR (4080#). (IMHO the truck's suspension and tires needed help doing this. The HD payload trucks already come with the heavier suspension and LT tires). My rig works well, and I wouldn't mind maxing out a 2015 F150's GVWR and GAWRs as well.

But I'm not sure that I would want to max out the Tow Rating.

As for bumper pull tow capacity, I suspect 12,000# with flatbed trailer loaded with bricks would be doable. But even there, with only 10% hitch weight, you would be overloading the hitch receiver, unless Ford has upgraded it from the current max 1150# rating for a WDH. Wouldn't want to try it with a bumper pull TT w/o upgrading the hitch receiver.

With a fifth wheel you could get around the bumper pull hitch rating and maybe put 2400# on the rear axle: doable with that 4x2 Reg Cab HD Payload truck. That would be 20% pin weight for a 12,000# trailer.

But at 12,000# you will be maxing out the F150's engine (along with everything else). Sort of like a Hemi 5.7 in a RAM 2500 pulling it's max of around the same 12,000#. For me at least, it would probably not be an enjoyable ride. My previous truck was under-powered and the constant gear-shifting to maintain speed drove me nuts.

For towing much over 9000#, I would opt for a stronger motor than what's available in the F150.