Attention all Wolf Creek 850 Owners

joeshmoe wrote:

Mello Mike wrote:

Jim,
I understand what you're saying, but this comes straight from the NW factory. Not me. They recommend only Torklift tie downs for their campers. This is what they told Nolan after his incident. And when I said it was a "bad design," I was referring to the Wolf Creek 850 long-bed front tie down points not the Happijacs. However, in both incidents involving front tie down failures, Happijac turnbuckles were used not Torklift's. A small sample size, yes, but it's something that can't be ignored either.

C'mon, Mike. Lets be honest. Northwood also claims to have the anchor points attached to the frame. This is a lie. 1/4" screws into wood and cardboard are not a good design for either long or short bed. I don't care what the factory says. NW also claims to have "reinforced" the 2015+ Wolf Creeks the same way that they do the AF's. This is also untrue, yet it "comes from the factory". Have you stopped to think that they might a vested, financial interest to not be exactly forthright? At least not until more failures happen. How many have occurred that we don't know about? The poor souls that don't frequent internet forums, but just go to a dealer load up?

At this point, I'm little tired of the conjecture of the long bed vs short bed design. As far as I'm concerned, they have the exact same dimensions save for the enclosed area at the rear of the shorts. I have yet to be convinced that there is any difference. They ARE the same in length. Are the compartments open or empty on the topside? What material is in there?

The only way to know for sure would be for someone with a short bed to post up pics under the kitchen sink and behind the furnace vent. You can't tell any other way. THAT would put this long vs. short bed design argument to rest. Again, comes from the factory and what is are two very different things. This design flaw needs to be addressed figured out BEFORE someone gets injured or worse. They never even got back with Nolan after his repeated attempts. What kind of respectable RV company does that?

Agree Joe.. Along with that show me where the gray/black holding tanks are located.. At the rear of the camper usually.
If that is true:

39 gallons of gray and black when full= <> 300+ lbs... Locate that behind CG. Couple that with the loss of 300lbs in the water tanks and tell me that the long bed camper on a short bed truck is not rear heavy at times...


Jim