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brulaz
Aug 11, 2013Explorer
You don't really need HD payload unless you go to a light 5th wheel. And even there, many are overloaded.
A 4x2 SuperCab Eco with only Max Tow can have 2050# payload like mine. Most 5th wheels would overload my rear axle, even if the payload was ok. But with a TT, a WDH can move 1100# tongue weight around to the front axle and trailer axle to keep the rear axle above its GAWR.
Still, the HD payload is nice 'cause of the heavier suspension and LT tires alone, so definitely worth it if available in the model you want. I ended up beefing the rear springs, upgrading all 4 shocks and switching to LT tires on my FX2 to improve the ride when towing. And that's just with a 4000# loaded trailer and 1000# of gear. A stock F150 without HD payload has a pretty soft suspension.
A bigger trailer that we're thinking of upgrading to has a GVWR of 8100# and will probably weigh around 7600# loaded. Tongue will be about 950#.
The total increase in weight over what I have now (truck+trailer) will be about 32%. After towing our current load all over the continent, I think the truck will handle the heavier trailer just fine, but with more time spent in 5th & 4th gears. Don't think I would go any bigger/heavier though.
If you're looking for trailers that can go off-road, look at Northwood Mfg. (Nash, Artic Fox) and Outdoors RV Mfg. (Timber Ridge, Creekside, BackCountry). They all use Northwood frames with shock absorbers and have good ground clearance and are quite rugged, but heavy.
A 4x2 SuperCab Eco with only Max Tow can have 2050# payload like mine. Most 5th wheels would overload my rear axle, even if the payload was ok. But with a TT, a WDH can move 1100# tongue weight around to the front axle and trailer axle to keep the rear axle above its GAWR.
Still, the HD payload is nice 'cause of the heavier suspension and LT tires alone, so definitely worth it if available in the model you want. I ended up beefing the rear springs, upgrading all 4 shocks and switching to LT tires on my FX2 to improve the ride when towing. And that's just with a 4000# loaded trailer and 1000# of gear. A stock F150 without HD payload has a pretty soft suspension.
A bigger trailer that we're thinking of upgrading to has a GVWR of 8100# and will probably weigh around 7600# loaded. Tongue will be about 950#.
The total increase in weight over what I have now (truck+trailer) will be about 32%. After towing our current load all over the continent, I think the truck will handle the heavier trailer just fine, but with more time spent in 5th & 4th gears. Don't think I would go any bigger/heavier though.
If you're looking for trailers that can go off-road, look at Northwood Mfg. (Nash, Artic Fox) and Outdoors RV Mfg. (Timber Ridge, Creekside, BackCountry). They all use Northwood frames with shock absorbers and have good ground clearance and are quite rugged, but heavy.
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