If you have a wife like mine who uses copious amounts of paper then using the tank flush many times is a necessity. We have had the use a little less paper talk but I don't want to die on that mountain. I also use a tank wand to flush even after I have used the built in tank flush and things run clear and guess what, a whole bunch more solids come out. I only do that a couple times a season and when I am putting it up for the season. A clean tank doesn't stink so for me its not about the dreaded poop pyramid or a squeaky clean tank, it's about stink control.