Blackbear tune

Had a tune on my last '02 6.0. Biggest difference was in the way the truck shifted. Maybe a few more HP but your not going to turn it into a big block. Only so much tuning can achieve on a gas motor. Diesel a different story.

I've read a number of positive things on the GM trucks forum.

However, I guess they are very busy (good for them) and they can take a very long time to respond to inquiries.

N-Trouble wrote:
Had a tune on my last '02 6.0. Biggest difference was in the way the truck shifted. Maybe a few more HP but your not going to turn it into a big block. Only so much tuning can achieve on a gas motor. Diesel a different story.

You can get some impressive numbers out of an LS motor with a cam and tuning. I don't know how it works out doing it on a motor that tows mostly but a cam can make them come to life.;)

transamz9 wrote:

N-Trouble wrote:
Had a tune on my last '02 6.0. Biggest difference was in the way the truck shifted. Maybe a few more HP but your not going to turn it into a big block. Only so much tuning can achieve on a gas motor. Diesel a different story.

You can get some impressive numbers out of an LS motor with a cam and tuning. I don't know how it works out doing it on a motor that tows mostly but a cam can make them come to life.;)

Maybe good peak HP number gains for racing but not where it counts for towing...

Had a Blackbear tune on my 04 and loved it. Not much HP increase if any but the throttle response was better along with the shifting. I had an 89 octane tune with no torque management and firmer shifts. MPG stayed the same. I put just over 100k on that truck with the tune with no issues.

Been thinking about doing something with my 2011 just haven't yet.

I know I didn't really address the OPs questions but sure can recommend Blackbear.

Thanks so far guys, just heard back and he said that it would gain 30HP and 40-50 TQ. Plus 1-3 mpg better. I am assuming that it would require 91 oct. Also would be better throttle response and reducing Tq management. This tune will cost 599.00 and it's the hand held one that you can have many different programs on it. So one day u could tune it for towing and the other day put it back at stock. So I know that this will not turn the SB into a BB or diesel... Not an issue for me. Jumping from 360HP and 380 TQ stock to 390 HP and 430 TQ is not a bad deal..... Plus getting rid of most of the sluggish TQ management would be nice.. From what I understand is they send u the hand held unit, then u drive around while it gathers info. After u send it via email back to them with what you want out of the truck and they email the program's back to u for install. Seems pretty much straight forward. So definitely considering it tonight and will let u know if I order it. Been reading today online and it's a popular tune for GM trucks. Again no diesel but I don't want one anyway, big thing that I want reduced is the TQ management......

But my understanding is that the torque management is there for a pretty good reason. I protects the drive train, which can't handle peak torque in the lower gears. Am I wrong?

I've heard that they are the equal to 5star tuning in the GM world....

I heard TQ management was for Cafe standards? I didn't thing the HD rigs went by that. Don't know much more then that. I did inquire again and was told that some TQ management is left. So not all removed but enough to see some gains and feel them. Still researching but will most likely do it soon.

Ask any OEM if they would warranty any breakage on a modified product that is outside
of their published specifications...

In addition to federal laws governing this type of product...there are still some
states that have lesser exhaust rules. That is shrinking ever since that one
state other than Calif adopted stricter exhaust rules...

Part of today's torque control systems are not just to keep parts living past
their OEM warranty periods...but 'traction control', 'stability control', 'sway
control' and ETC...

Also, those are all tied (highly integrated) together with stuff like ABS...