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Katajojo
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Jun 06, 2017

brophy tie downs vs others?

I have searched the forum before posting this and did not find my answer, bc all previous posts had different (newer) trucks and campers.

I recently bought a TC, (see signature for rig set up), and the previous owners, one who is a trucker, and the other who repairs them, put the TC on my truck for me, and they used brophy screw ons, not the stakes, and steel turnbuckles. They seem sturdy, very.

My truck box fit the TC like a glove. The tailgate was removed to eliminate extra weight AND because I had no choice anyway, as the TC fit so well and snug in the bed, it wouldn't go in with the tailgate still attatched.

Ok...When I first drove it, it seemed to rock with the motion of the truck bed, and I can SEE it moving overhead out my peripheral vision. FREAKED ME OUT! THEY both laughed and said it was normal. Is it?????

These two guys were so nice they even hooked up my auxillary battery system for me off my alternator for free, and checked my truck engine for safety etc and adjusted my mirrors. WHY wouldn't I trust them that they know what they're doing?
The trucker marveled at how well my truck drove, and bragged about it to his buddy. "Smooth as molasses," he said. That was without the TC in it.

The diesel mechanic said he didn't notice a thing wrong. So, I drove it 300 miles on interstate with no problems. I don't think the truck noticed the weight at all, at least I didn't notice it handling any different EXCEPT...it bucked like a horse ONCE, and that was mild and short lived. (10 seconds) (Hence my rush for new tires)

The truck also has a new beautiful Line-X liner. Would that make the camper slide?

I was a little afraid that my camper was too heavy, so I bought four new state of the art tires to increase the axle payload. My axle and suspension are free floating limited slip 4.1 see signature.

Am I just not use to it?

All help appreciated.

Is this normal? Do I need a different set up?

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  • AnEv942 wrote:
    When we first got our camper I use to drive with the sun visors down,
    the campers nose moves alot in relation to front of truck. Normal yes, frame flexes/twists between bed and cab but after a while you wont notice.

    A rubber mat, even with the spray in liner will help alot if there is actually movement.

    As to rocking, not sure. Center of gravity is a lot higher so truck will handle/react different to any side forces. If camper is actually rocking in the bed, really not likely given weight of camper (11' under 2000#?) better tie downs could help. Unfamiliar with Brophys other than the old stake pockets. Umm I just looked, crbrophy.com I think Id start saving for Torklift or HappiJac tie downs.


    I'm a she. :D

    Yea, camper is exactly 11.5' and weighs exactly 1895lbs dry. (So says the plate on the camper and the original sales receipt from the dealer.)

    The Brophys are the super heavy duty ones from the link you gave.

    I dont see any movement side to side through the back mirror, or even when I kept looking over my shoulder every five seconds to make sure the thing was still connected to the planet. It's just over the cab that I see it move OR when Im out watching someone else drive it into a dock. (When I got new tires.) The truck bed and camper moved in unison, but it seemed to me to be a lot. It feels STRANGE, looks strange, and Ive nothing to compare. Never watched a TC move slowly into a dock.

    Yes the liner is a spray in. I can't remove it.

    It handled fine, even when big 18 wheelers drove by me at warp speed. Just "moved" a bit to the right, then recovered instantly. (but I do credit myself to good driving skills. ;) )

    Yea, im terrified of being overweight. My truck is a monster. My diesel engine weighs a lot. Id just be sick if I had to get rid of either one of these beauties. The TC is spotless, never used, no rust, no leaks, no dust or mold, and the pickup no rust, pristine paint, also a beauty. Took me 3 years holding out to get exactly what I wanted, then realized I might of just made a dreadful mistake on total weight. The guys told me my truck would handle the TC. I believed them. It probably will. Ive had so many diesel mechanics offer to buy my truck while I'm standing there, so there has to be something they like about it. The guy who put in my new fuel line said I had a gem.

    I bought the heavy duty tires to increase my payload as the Ford guy told me the axle rating is based on the tires you have, so I bought the highest weight rated tires I could find that would fit my rims. They had to special order them.

    I figured my springs can handle extra weight? I wanted one of the old diesels bc I didn't want any computerized gizmos in my truck engine, and I wanted a sturdy body.

    I'm just kinda freakin out. I cant afford TL right now bc my tires cost around $1000. I'm traveling to central states to see the eclipse in August, so I wanted reassurance it will be OK...at least for that trip?

    I guess I will look at happy jacks, and have someone look at it. Im so terrified to go to the scales. I hope it's not a weight isdue that makes it move. But lije I said...the bed and TC move in unison...the TC is NOT moving independently of the truck.

    TL just seem so much better, but one post here said hes been just fine without them.

    Ahhhhh. Sheesh.

    THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!!!!
  • First of all, where did you get the idea your 11' camper weighs 1895 pounds? That's got to be about HALF the actual weight.
    The movement you're seeing is normal. That's why truck cabs and beds are separate rather than one piece. (OK except for those '61-'63 Ford "Unibody" trucks... and those didn't work out!) Trucks flex.
    I carried 4000+ pound campers for years with Brophys. They work fine. There are lots of guys on here who think you need Torklift tiedowns, but as mentioned, show me an example of a camper held on with Brophy-style tiedowns that came off. It's all just a bunch of sky-is-falling speculation. The older the truck, the better Brophy style tiedowns work, because the beds were stronger and stiffer. I dare say that on my old '67 Chevy with clamp on camper brackets, the camper would be torn apart before you pulled those things off.
    Having said that, Torklifts are very excellent tie downs.
    The only reason I quit using the Brophy style tiedowns is they're an extra chore to install and remove every time I want to load my camper, and they're ugly if I just leave 'em on.
    I actually like "belly bar" tiedown mounts.

    Weigh your rig with and without that camper... if it's an 11-footer, it weighs around 4000-ish.
    I guarantee you it doesn't weigh anything close to 1895!
  • I ah gotta ask SidecarFlip, what ARE you going off about?- replied to wrong thread? No one mentioned Torklift was the best. No one mentioned camper sliding on the spray in lining. Closest was me saying IF it was actually moving a mat would help or the other was IF it had a plastic liner to remove.

    The thread is about a new TC owner asking about couple of things shes not comfortable with..one being the Brophy mounts. The other how much camper moves. Few who have never driven truck with a T/C would not find the camper nose bobbing around a bit disconcerting.
  • Torklift is great and I didn't have to drill holes in my truck to mount them. The Fastguns work fantastic and have some give in them so not to damage the TC mounts. Definitely get a rubber bed mat for your truck bed. But before you do all the above, get your truck and TC combo weighed so you know what the real weights are. Have fun.
  • Guess I'm the odd man out again. I have a Rhino Lined bed on my F350 and over the course of 2 TC's now, they have both sat on the liner only and no movement what so ever (and that includes off roading) and off camber turns and steelpgrades on dirt roads, most of my camping is off road....

    I don't have TL tiedowns. When I got my first TC, TL wasn't even around. I have HappyJac's front and rear, never an issue, not one hiccup. At some point I may purchase a set of TL cam lock tie down's but HJ has come out with their own (and a lesser price point) so I may get them, not that I'm unhappy with the HJ turnbuckles, it's just the cam locks are quicker on and off. having said that, I usually leave the camper on the truck all season except right now when I'm using the truck for the farm (to haul tractor fuel) Once I'm done planting, the camper goes in the bed and stays there until winter, when it comes off and goes in the garage.

    I quit watching my camper out the window (I have a crew cab so I cannot see the nose in the windshield )and yes it moves, but, if it didn't something would be wrong as the bed needs to move independently from the cab and the camper is in the bed so it moves with the bed.

    All this phooey about TL being the best... is, in my opinion and 20 plus years of TC experience, a bunch of phooey perpetuated by people who have never used anything else.

    Happyjac was around a long time before TorkLift and I've never heard of any campers coming off the truck using them.

    If there is, please enlighten me.... If not, quit bragging about TL because it's just that bragging.

    TL produces some outstanding products but so does HappyJac.
  • When we first got our camper I use to drive with the sun visors down,
    the campers nose moves alot in relation to front of truck. Normal yes, frame flexes/twists between bed and cab but after a while you wont notice.

    A rubber mat, even with the spray in liner will help alot if there is actually movement.

    As to rocking, not sure. Center of gravity is a lot higher so truck will handle/react different to any side forces. If camper is actually rocking in the bed, really not likely given weight of camper (11' under 2000#?) better tie downs could help. Unfamiliar with Brophys other than the old stake pockets. Umm I just looked, crbrophy.com I think Id start saving for Torklift or HappiJac tie downs.
  • I assume your Line-X is a spray in liner? If so, it's probably fine. I have one (different company) that has a slightly rough texture -- no camper sliding.
    But I also use Torklift.
    Always a good idea to get an honest weight to see where you really are.
  • I had a similar shadow cruiser on my f250, you're fine truck wise but I would get torklifts or happyjacs, I have seen brophys in action and it scares me how much movement they allow. Also ditch the plastic liner if it has one as the TC will slide and get a rubber mat instead.