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ShinerBock
Sep 26, 2018Explorer
CarterKraft wrote:
It seems you are trying to retro-actively apply emissions law/theory to the vehicles/laws in question.
(For the record I believe we are in the same camp, and agree on the same points however the EPA is not in my camp nor do I describe to their way of thinking.)
For the companies to profit from the defeat of the EPA's own mandated devices is a pretty ballsy move from my position.
And then standing on the courthouse steps telling the EPA why your deleted truck doesn't use DEF and saves the environment due to improved emissions sounds like a fools errand to me, they don't want input they want compliance.
I am pretty sure the EPA has ZERO care as to how much fuel we use per year, I would argue that they worse off fuel consumption gets the easier it gets to do there job (create beat down laws) and unpractical mandates for lower mileage numbers and emissions. Self fulfilling prophecy if you will.
I know of one of the vendors in the diesel performance space that purposely never collected a dime for there emissions defeat devices because to do so would land you in a lawsuit...
I hope you don't take me as argumentative, I don't think the EPA or any .gov entity for that matter cares much about what I have to say post elections.
I was just correcting false statements made, not trying to plead my case to the EPA. The EPA is a bureaucracy that will not hesitate to turn law abiding citizens who used hot rod their cars/trucks into criminals overnight. Similar to gun control.
However, many people ignorantly believe that diesels (even deleted ones) are more harmful to the environment just because they can see the emissions from the diesel and not a gas engine. No doubt that the coal rollers(whom I hate as well) exacerbated the issue by purposely trying to spew black smoke. Due to ULSD, VG turbos, more injection events, higher fuel pressures, and so on, today's deleted diesels likely have better emissions than stock diesels did before 2007. Most tuned diesels today do not emit any black smoke unless you switch it to a hot tune.
Again, just because you can't see gas emissions doesn't mean there isn't any.
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