Buying a used diesel

Bird Freak wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

ksss wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

shum02 wrote:

IdaD wrote:
A few points to ponder.

- 6.0 and 6.4 Ford diesels are junk, and are priced accordingly used. A low price does not always equate to a good value. There are options for "bulletproofing" these engines but I don't know what they cost or how effective those preventative fixes are.

I know itès weird but I have almost 300k miles on my 6.0L, stock head bolts too. Weird.

All things in Ièd avoid the 6.4L as well even though it is a very close cousin to the 6.0L. PITA with 1st gen new emission gear. Compared to it my 6.0L has almost none.

With ANY used diesel that is out of warranty be prepared to either work on it yourself or have some room on a CC because NONE of them are cheap to have work done on, especially at a dealer.

I'm still driving my JUNK 6.0 also with the stock head bolts. Sure are a lot of these junk engines on the road.

And many more pulled off the road. If your still driving your JUNK 6.0, that is your own fault. You 6.0/6.4 apologist kill me. I have had a 6.2 that I sold at 225K a '93 6.5 with just under 300K when I sold it and a 98 6.5 that I sold at 100K. My personal experience with all three of these engines was positive from a mechanical standpoint. None had anything substantial done to them. However I can acknowledge that outside of my own experience, they weren't good engines. As bad as they were, they weren't the focus of a billion dollar lawsuit. The 6.0/6.4 were/are JUNK just as you said. You still driving one doesn't allow you to rewrite history. Take a poll from previous owners and see what the masses think. Taking a poll of yourself isn't really a poll, its YOUR experience, just like the Detroit diesels were MINE. Statistically not revelant. Take the time and read the actual lawsuit, it outlines in great detail the issues on both sides of the suit. The aftermarket doesn't spin up (Bullet Proof Diesel) for no reason, if there were no issues the term Bullet Proofing would not exist. I have yet to see a Cummins, Duramax or Ford 6.7 Bullet Proof diesel pop up.

Not sure why you have to attack the man. His experience with his truck is a good one and so was mine. So be it!

I will say this... I sure see a lot more 6.0 PSD on the road today vs those first gen DPF equipped 6.7 cummins, Duramax, and 6.4 Power Strokes. Must be a reason!

Even my BIL fell victom of a 09 6.7 cummins that he sold after 9 months of ownership due to too many problems with the emissions. He wished he kept his 04 6.0 PSD after that experience. After he unloaded that truck to a willing buyer he purchased a 07 Dodge 5.9 cummins in Arizona, flew there to pick it up and drove it back. That was one hell of a experience after owning that POS 09 6.7 cummins.

He did later move on to purchase a new '16 6.7 PSD truck and it's given him good reasonably good service for a DPF equipped truck. I think this truck restored his fate on the DPF equipped trucks for now.

BTW... I know and man who had a Chevy 6.5TD and it gave him good service up to around ~350k miles and my BIL had a 98 Chevy with a 6.5TD and it gave him good service as well. No big deal!

Thanks Fish.
This guy has a habit of reading what he wants and not really reading what the post said. He then proceeds to go off the deep end with his foolish rants.