Car and drivers Colorado vs 2016 tacoma !

Haven't read the article, but it I am happy to have more options. I for one see a lot of growth in that size truck in the future.

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The Toyota has one huge, major, game changing advantage for "me": you can still get a six speed manual gearbox with the V6 engine.

It's a shame GM decided to go with only an automatic transmission in the Colorado/Canyon.

Yeah, wish they had a 8 track player too, I gotta a box of tapes. ;)

You can put the Colorado transmission in manual mode and shift to your heart's content by just pushing a button!

Why only an automatic tranny (which can also be manually shifted thru the gears for the left behind old timers living in the past)? GM even thought about them!

Well, some guys love to pound the clutch pedal whether they need to or not but must whether they want to or not probably still wear full length button up long handles underwear in the summer in the south too. Might notice that girls are smarter as they don't wear hoop skirts or long button up shoes any more and haven't for so many decades. Who's really lagging far behind the learned modern civilization here???

gmw photos wrote:
The Toyota has one huge, major, game changing advantage for "me": you can still get a six speed manual gearbox with the V6 engine.

It's a shame GM decided to go with only an automatic transmission in the Colorado/Canyon.

I wonder if that Toyota can be towed 4 down yet?

I think there is a lot they can do yet to expand the appeal of this line of pickups. Making the Dmax available across the entire line, adding a manual, adding a regular cab to the mix, make an SUV off that platform, bring back the ZR2, add some higher end content such as sunroof. Bringing in the Denali version hopefully will provide the higher end content. I wish they could check all these boxes at once, but I get it I guess. Right now they are selling like hot cakes, perhaps once supply and demand get in line they can work on expanding it. I think the entire midsize pickup concept has great promise as long as they don't drive it into the ditch. Seeing this head to head comparo holds great hope. I was really waiting to see how the Twins would do when Toyota released the new Taco. Regardless of who you think won, I think it is safe to say that GM is very competitive.

The "what...no manual" crowd reminds me of the HD crowd back when Ford and GM decided not to spend many millions of dollars to develop a new manual that could handle the high torque numbers of the modern diesel HD pickup...oh, how they cried foul...but they ignore the simple truth...If there was a market for a manual transmission in these trucks...and I mean a real market, not just the handful that post here, these manufacturer's would be offering them

I don't know the what the take rate for a manual Colorado/Canyon might actually be but my guess is it's the same ridiculously low "less than 1.5%" take rate" on the HD trucks...no market so no availability...

Now before all the manual fans get all upset with me, I have over a million miles of manual transmission driving...in everything from small cars to semi tractor trucks...I was driving a 13 speed International a couple of weeks ago personally, I hope to never own another manual transmission truck...but I respect the manual fans right to ask for one...

Regards

ricatic wrote:
The "what...no manual" crowd reminds me of the HD crowd back when Ford and GM decided not to spend many millions of dollars to develop a new manual that could handle the high torque numbers of the modern diesel HD pickup...oh, how they cried foul...but they ignore the simple truth...If there was a market for a manual transmission in these trucks...and I mean a real market, not just the handful that post here, these manufacturer's would be offering them

I don't know the what the take rate for a manual Colorado/Canyon might actually be but my guess is it's the same ridiculously low "less than 1.5%" take rate" on the HD trucks...no market so no availability...

Now before all the manual fans get all upset with me, I have over a million miles of manual transmission driving...in everything from small cars to semi tractor trucks...I was driving a 13 speed International a couple of weeks ago personally, I hope to never own another manual transmission truck...but I respect the manual fans right to ask for one...

Regards

The modern day automatic is superior in every way. For pulling in my 1 ton I prefer a auto. But for a small run around vehicle I prefer a manual. You are right we are a dyeing breed and not enough demand for most mfg to offer a manual. Most young people have never even seen a clutch and stick shift.

All opinion (AKA personal choice) and know I'm in the vast minority when it comes
to an auto vs manual...

Am almost 70 and still prefer a manual for my TRUCKS. Especially off roaders

As for my 'car', sure thing...prefer an automatic

The biggest/best invention for an automatic is the TC lock up...okay toss in
external ATF cooler to that

Soooooo many of the bells and whistles are fads...some do make it into standard
accepted stuff for TRUCKs

When ordering my Suburban back in 95...all the sales folks were pitching some
of the latest...how many cup holders vs the others was the biggest...with the
"oh my gosh...no 4x4 shifter on the floor"... :R

When my 1980 Silverado dad gave me goes...would consider one of these,
but then for that kind of money...I could cruise the Calif Central Valley
looking for a 1950's pickup and rebuild it from the ground up to my liking

No smog anything, no smog checks, etc. Keep it simple but with
a turbo and updated junk yard suspension/etc...but the pickup won't
be used to tow anything other than a utility trailer and haul stuff

AND still have tons of $$$ left over for other hobby stuff...like looking
for a used Henry Big Boy 44mag right now...about wet my pants every
time see a picture of one :B

...heh, heh....y'all can call me a Neanderthal if you like, but I still prefer a manual gearbox !! :)

There's a reason why we used to call automatics, "his and hers transmissions" ;) all those guys that wanted a four speed in their Corvette of Camaro, had to get an automatic to keep momma happy :R
Yep...you guessed it.... I had four speeds in both my Corvette and my Z28 back in the day.

EDIT: I suspect the whole automatic vs manual debate is like a lot of things in our modern society. "Most" people want a "push-button" life. Ben and I are are from an older generation...a generation where people still did a lot of things for themselves. I still make furniture and props in my woodworking shop for my daughter's photo studio . She could buy these props commercially by simply pushing some buttons on her computer and have it delivered. I prefer to do it the manual way, by building stuff myself. Same with a horse... I still prefer a horse that needs a "lot of manual control" to get him to do what I want.
Others like doing things the easy way. For them, there are automatic transmissions...and a lot of other automation as well. To each his own.