Chevy 6.0 Super Ike Gauntlet

transamz9 wrote:

kw/00 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

kw/00 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

kw/00 wrote:
Just got back from a state park in Georgia, saw several gas jobs. The guy beside me had a Ford 6.2, asked him about it, liked the truck a lot and went to gas cause of the diesel emissions.

I always like the comments that people say they go back to gas because of the possible high cost of repairs on the diesels. I just cut a check for $5700 for a Tundra with 128,000 miles. Air pumps and heads. Also some VVT issues. Another dealer wanted to put a new engine in it. LOL

Great point, both sides have had problems, however gas jobs generally have less problems and are mostly cheaper to own and fix in the long run. The tundra example is a very small price to pay verse 10k to fix a fuel issue on the diesel. I have towed with both, diesel wins on pulling for sure in the hills. Ownership wise, gas makes more sense to me and others for many reasons. Yep can I afford a diesel? Yes.. Do I want the issues from the emissions and other potental high cost issues? No. I think when we get the emissions under control for the Diesel engine, then they will be cheaper and easier to own. Who knows when this will be. I for one am a fan for diesel trucks. But I have asked others towing with gas jobs why they chose gas, and the answer is mostly the same as stated above.

We no longer buy Ford diesels so we don't worry about 10K fuel issues. I personally haven't heard of any issues with any of the big diesels now. Sure you are going to have your bad ones here and there but there are bad ones here and there in the gas trucks also. My FIL has a '15 60 Chevy and he hates it. He hates it to the point he said he's not going to take any more trips more than 2 hrs towing with it.

Ok, he should then try out different models then gas or deisel. I have had no issues with my gm 6.0 pulling my current 10k load. As I have said before about overall diesel cost and replacement. Our fleet have been changing over to gas for the city trucks. The county trucks are still diesel. Our fleet manager decided it was cheaper overall to own gas jobs in ambulances verse diesel. That's over the period of the service life. I don't have the figures, and won't be able to get them, that's not my job at work. We have had a lot of diesel issues with the emissions on our fire trucks and ambulances. The amount of downtime changing or cleaning out the Dpf filter is crazy. We can drive only so far then it regens as it should then eventually it needs serviced. So after 100k how are these filter systems going to hold up....I'm afraid by cleaning and or replacement is a large cost. But that's where everyone gets smart, they delete it or tune it and run the dog out of it for 100k then trade it in before boom time... So if I were to purchase a diesel I would go new. Yes both engines have there good and bad. Sorry you FIL doesn't like his 6.0. I have had terrific service with mine, hope he finds the truck that works out best for him. I like the duramax for sure, had over 250k on the 01 before a trade in.

Yes, I agree with your fleet manager and say that gas perfect for an ambulance. Too much idle time and not enough running. I know they are heavy but they don't work the diesel enough on the short runs they make and then idle.

"they delete it or tune it and run the dog out of it for 100k then trade it in before boom time" I'm scratching my head on this one. The ones that normally delete don't trade them. They delete so they can build power, get sound and make a "race truck". If they do sell them it's not because they're scared of them but because they want to build the next truck.

Check out this 2016 $70k truck. Watch till the end where he shows his engine mods. Some people just have too much money.

Deleted Laramie Longhorn

kw/00 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

kw/00 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

kw/00 wrote:
Just got back from a state park in Georgia, saw several gas jobs. The guy beside me had a Ford 6.2, asked him about it, liked the truck a lot and went to gas cause of the diesel emissions.

I always like the comments that people say they go back to gas because of the possible high cost of repairs on the diesels. I just cut a check for $5700 for a Tundra with 128,000 miles. Air pumps and heads. Also some VVT issues. Another dealer wanted to put a new engine in it. LOL

Great point, both sides have had problems, however gas jobs generally have less problems and are mostly cheaper to own and fix in the long run. The tundra example is a very small price to pay verse 10k to fix a fuel issue on the diesel. I have towed with both, diesel wins on pulling for sure in the hills. Ownership wise, gas makes more sense to me and others for many reasons. Yep can I afford a diesel? Yes.. Do I want the issues from the emissions and other potental high cost issues? No. I think when we get the emissions under control for the Diesel engine, then they will be cheaper and easier to own. Who knows when this will be. I for one am a fan for diesel trucks. But I have asked others towing with gas jobs why they chose gas, and the answer is mostly the same as stated above.

We no longer buy Ford diesels so we don't worry about 10K fuel issues. I personally haven't heard of any issues with any of the big diesels now. Sure you are going to have your bad ones here and there but there are bad ones here and there in the gas trucks also. My FIL has a '15 60 Chevy and he hates it. He hates it to the point he said he's not going to take any more trips more than 2 hrs towing with it.

Ok, he should then try out different models then gas or deisel. I have had no issues with my gm 6.0 pulling my current 10k load. As I have said before about overall diesel cost and replacement. Our fleet have been changing over to gas for the city trucks. The county trucks are still diesel. Our fleet manager decided it was cheaper overall to own gas jobs in ambulances verse diesel. That's over the period of the service life. I don't have the figures, and won't be able to get them, that's not my job at work. We have had a lot of diesel issues with the emissions on our fire trucks and ambulances. The amount of downtime changing or cleaning out the Dpf filter is crazy. We can drive only so far then it regens as it should then eventually it needs serviced. So after 100k how are these filter systems going to hold up....I'm afraid by cleaning and or replacement is a large cost. But that's where everyone gets smart, they delete it or tune it and run the dog out of it for 100k then trade it in before boom time... So if I were to purchase a diesel I would go new. Yes both engines have there good and bad. Sorry you FIL doesn't like his 6.0. I have had terrific service with mine, hope he finds the truck that works out best for him. I like the duramax for sure, had over 250k on the 01 before a trade in.

fireman41 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
Gas = lower repair bill + more often + 200k mile replacement

Diesel = higher repair bill + less often + 500k mile replacement

Pick your poison.

If my truck will make it to 150k before it rusts away here in PA I'll be happy.

transamz9 wrote:

kw/00 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

kw/00 wrote:
Just got back from a state park in Georgia, saw several gas jobs. The guy beside me had a Ford 6.2, asked him about it, liked the truck a lot and went to gas cause of the diesel emissions.

I always like the comments that people say they go back to gas because of the possible high cost of repairs on the diesels. I just cut a check for $5700 for a Tundra with 128,000 miles. Air pumps and heads. Also some VVT issues. Another dealer wanted to put a new engine in it. LOL

Great point, both sides have had problems, however gas jobs generally have less problems and are mostly cheaper to own and fix in the long run. The tundra example is a very small price to pay verse 10k to fix a fuel issue on the diesel. I have towed with both, diesel wins on pulling for sure in the hills. Ownership wise, gas makes more sense to me and others for many reasons. Yep can I afford a diesel? Yes.. Do I want the issues from the emissions and other potental high cost issues? No. I think when we get the emissions under control for the Diesel engine, then they will be cheaper and easier to own. Who knows when this will be. I for one am a fan for diesel trucks. But I have asked others towing with gas jobs why they chose gas, and the answer is mostly the same as stated above.

We no longer buy Ford diesels so we don't worry about 10K fuel issues. I personally haven't heard of any issues with any of the big diesels now. Sure you are going to have your bad ones here and there but there are bad ones here and there in the gas trucks also. My FIL has a '15 60 Chevy and he hates it. He hates it to the point he said he's not going to take any more trips more than 2 hrs towing with it.

kw/00 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

kw/00 wrote:
Just got back from a state park in Georgia, saw several gas jobs. The guy beside me had a Ford 6.2, asked him about it, liked the truck a lot and went to gas cause of the diesel emissions.

I always like the comments that people say they go back to gas because of the possible high cost of repairs on the diesels. I just cut a check for $5700 for a Tundra with 128,000 miles. Air pumps and heads. Also some VVT issues. Another dealer wanted to put a new engine in it. LOL

Great point, both sides have had problems, however gas jobs generally have less problems and are mostly cheaper to own and fix in the long run. The tundra example is a very small price to pay verse 10k to fix a fuel issue on the diesel. I have towed with both, diesel wins on pulling for sure in the hills. Ownership wise, gas makes more sense to me and others for many reasons. Yep can I afford a diesel? Yes.. Do I want the issues from the emissions and other potental high cost issues? No. I think when we get the emissions under control for the Diesel engine, then they will be cheaper and easier to own. Who knows when this will be. I for one am a fan for diesel trucks. But I have asked others towing with gas jobs why they chose gas, and the answer is mostly the same as stated above.

kerrlakeroo wrote:
The other consideration on the gas vs diesel issue is the future, Even if the current administration backs off on some of the prior requirements, its frightening to think of what the enviro groups will come up with in the future. Diesel is always the first thing attacked and in part its because very few of the pro Prius types use them, and its easier to sell restrictions to those not affected. Gas while they might not like it, is still more commonly found in the hands of the folks they have to sell those regulations too , so those changes are a little tougher sell at least in the short term.

ShinerBock wrote:
Gas = lower repair bill + more often + 200k mile replacement

Diesel = higher repair bill + less often + 500k mile replacement

Pick your poison.