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fj12ryder wrote:
"But it fits and it would be a lot better than my ICE puller -- in costs. and convenience."
Cost? Perhaps. Convenience? Perhaps in the future, right now, not so much.
Cannot attest nor dispute that.
I don't have mine yet, lol.
My daughter, who got a Tesla X says it's a thousand times more convenient. And she's not going back to an ICE.time2roll wrote:
Going to be a while for the first trip report.....
Late next year, assuming I'm ahead in the line with my reservations done within two hours of the launch.
But just like other Teslas, production unit vehicles would be out there ahead for independent testing and evaluation by car and truck experts.
That's why I'm an admirer of those techies in their forum. They can do an analysis of the news and leaks -- and they come out spot on or within the ballpark.Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
fj12ryder wrote:
"But it fits and it would be a lot better than my ICE puller -- in costs. and convenience."
Cost? Perhaps. Convenience? Perhaps in the future, right now, not so much.
Cannot attest nor dispute that.
I don't have mine yet, lol.
My daughter, who got a Tesla X says it's a thousand times more convenient. And she's not going back to an ICE.
I think towing with an EV truck will suffer some of the inconveniences that EV cars did at first but will eventually go away just like they did with EV cars. Mostly because the first generation of Superchargers and DCFC's were designed for cars and not trucks towing. But Tesla is already designing new Superchargers with Cybertrucks and towing in mind and non Tesla DCFC's will do the same...eventually. :) It will take some time. But as you mentioned, once you drive EV for any length of time going back to an ICE is not really an option.Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
fj12ryder wrote:
"But it fits and it would be a lot better than my ICE puller -- in costs. and convenience."
Cost? Perhaps. Convenience? Perhaps in the future, right now, not so much.
Cannot attest nor dispute that.
I don't have mine yet, lol.
My daughter, who got a Tesla X says it's a thousand times more convenient. And she's not going back to an ICE.
Ive never heard of anyone driving Tesla not liking it and going back to ICE either,will be interesting future.Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
From a previous post in another thread:
Here is a quote from someone at the Tesla forum on the concerns on the reduced range of Cybertruck when towing. I have no idea what this techie is saying but it's good enough for me on the range issue.
"I don't think the cybertruck will be affected as much as the Model x. The model x uses induction motors. An electric motor is most efficient when it is under a full load, so for model x efficiency reasons Tesla would not have put a much bigger motor than is needed for non-towing use. This means that when model x is towing it's motor is not at full back emf and is slightly leaking. ( Not all the energy goes to power, it is wasted as heat).
The cybertruck will not have this problem because it will use switched reluctance motors. With switching you can alter the timing to increase torque at the expense of top speed. Cybertruck will have a tow mode. I believe this mode means top speed will be dropped from 130 to say 85. power= torque x rpm so if you lower the rpm you get more torque. I have seen electric motors where you can set the timing for as much as a 20% difference in torque."
Ummm...no.
One of the big advantages to electric motors is they aren't impacted significantly by loading. So if you oversize the motor, it's not a big deal for efficiency...at least not enough to be noticeable.
By contrast, with ICE an oversize motor means it doesn't get up into the peak efficiency range and you can lose a lot of efficiency.- When I was a kid, my friends and I went camping, we were range limited by how far we wanted to pedal our bikes, and so, were stuck going to the same places repeatedly. My trips now involve longer distances, into new areas whenever possible. Northern Canada, Alaska, much of the US will long be off limits with the limitations this would place on you due to range and recharging.
You want a grocery getter, or something to visit local parks, it's likely fine, but, to stretch your horizons???? It's gonna be a little too long a wait for someone my age. wanderingaimlessly wrote:
When I was a kid, my friends and I went camping, we were range limited by how far we wanted to pedal our bikes, and so, were stuck going to the same places repeatedly. My trips now involve longer distances, into new areas whenever possible. Northern Canada, Alaska, much of the US will long be off limits with the limitations this would place on you due to range and recharging.
You want a grocery getter, or something to visit local parks, it's likely fine, but, to stretch your horizons???? It's gonna be a little too long a wait for someone my age.
Heh heh. I suppose. But then again, I live in Canada, and have never camped in Northern Canada...and probably never will. Any of the places we have camped don’t have gas stations at the campground, but many have power. :)
Travelling with an EV is different but generally much more convenient. At the end of a travel day we used to make sure our vehicle was gassed up and ready to go for the next day before checking into the hotel, or if we were tired just wait till the morning and hit a gas station. Meh. Not bad. 10 minutes out of the day. Now we pull into the hotel, hook up to one of the hotels destination chargers and next morning we are ready to go with a “full tank”. Campgrounds will adapt to customers needs and EVRVing will evolve in a similar manner to what the hotel industry has done.
Change can be good.Reisender wrote:
But having power once you get somewhere isn't the problem, it's the getting there that's the issue. :)wanderingaimlessly wrote:
When I was a kid, my friends and I went camping, we were range limited by how far we wanted to pedal our bikes, and so, were stuck going to the same places repeatedly. My trips now involve longer distances, into new areas whenever possible. Northern Canada, Alaska, much of the US will long be off limits with the limitations this would place on you due to range and recharging.
You want a grocery getter, or something to visit local parks, it's likely fine, but, to stretch your horizons???? It's gonna be a little too long a wait for someone my age.
Heh heh. I suppose. But then again, I live in Canada, and have never camped in Northern Canada...and probably never will. Any of the places we have camped don’t have gas stations at the campground, but many have power. :)
Just sayin.fj12ryder wrote:
Reisender wrote:
But having power once you get somewhere isn't the problem, it's the getting there that's the issue. :)wanderingaimlessly wrote:
When I was a kid, my friends and I went camping, we were range limited by how far we wanted to pedal our bikes, and so, were stuck going to the same places repeatedly. My trips now involve longer distances, into new areas whenever possible. Northern Canada, Alaska, much of the US will long be off limits with the limitations this would place on you due to range and recharging.
You want a grocery getter, or something to visit local parks, it's likely fine, but, to stretch your horizons???? It's gonna be a little too long a wait for someone my age.
Heh heh. I suppose. But then again, I live in Canada, and have never camped in Northern Canada...and probably never will. Any of the places we have camped don’t have gas stations at the campground, but many have power. :)
Just sayin.
Even at that. Consider, how many people are going to want to have to empty everything they want to use at a campsite from their truck. Fully unload at the trailer, so you can take the truck a half mile back to the office and leave it there overnight so it can charge?
I don't think there will be charging stations at each campsite, to suit each manufacturers needs.wanderingaimlessly wrote:
fj12ryder wrote:
Reisender wrote:
But having power once you get somewhere isn't the problem, it's the getting there that's the issue. :)wanderingaimlessly wrote:
When I was a kid, my friends and I went camping, we were range limited by how far we wanted to pedal our bikes, and so, were stuck going to the same places repeatedly. My trips now involve longer distances, into new areas whenever possible. Northern Canada, Alaska, much of the US will long be off limits with the limitations this would place on you due to range and recharging.
You want a grocery getter, or something to visit local parks, it's likely fine, but, to stretch your horizons???? It's gonna be a little too long a wait for someone my age.
Heh heh. I suppose. But then again, I live in Canada, and have never camped in Northern Canada...and probably never will. Any of the places we have camped don’t have gas stations at the campground, but many have power. :)
Just sayin.
Even at that. Consider, how many people are going to want to have to empty everything they want to use at a campsite from their truck. Fully unload at the trailer, so you can take the truck a half mile back to the office and leave it there overnight so it can charge?
I don't think there will be charging stations at each campsite, to suit each manufacturers needs.
Hmmm. Might be some misunderstanding here. All EV’s use electrons. No charging stations needed. And the EV comes with its own EVSE that can plug into any type of receptacle. A campground doesn’t need to provide anything other than a receptacle which is common in many campgrounds. Maybe I misunderstood your meaning. My apologies if that is the case.
