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May 04, 2018

Dead batteries

I went out to the storage area to try to install a TV behind the doors in the bedroom of our Bullet 247BHSWE. Sadly that didn't work out (TV is about .3 inches too thick at 1.9 inches with a .6 inch m...
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Possibly pertinent details: Purchased last year. It's a 2017. The batteries were included and LOOK relatively new. They are deep cycle batteries, but I forget the details.

We took the trailer out at Thanksgiving after it sitting for about a month. Afterwards, I put the batteries on two battery tenders.

At one point I filled the battery with distilled water. I may have overfilled, but not to the point it ever overflowed during charging.

We took the trailer out again at the beginning of April with no issues.

Afterward we returned it to storage. I checked to make sure we turned off the fridge and all lights. I'm not aware of anything left on aside from a plugged in surge protector (might have a light) and I think the radio might draw some power.

I went back to the trailer about a week or two later and the meter showed 2/3 full battery. I was surprised, but I just figured the meter was inaccurate.

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We took the trailer out at Thanksgiving after it sitting for about a month. Afterwards, I put the batteries on two battery tenders.

At one point I filled the battery with distilled water. I may have overfilled, but not to the point it ever overflowed during charging.

We took the trailer out again at the beginning of April with no issues.

Afterward we returned it to storage. I checked to make sure we turned off the fridge and all lights. I'm not aware of anything left on aside from a plugged in surge protector (might have a light) and I think the radio might draw some power.

I went back to the trailer about a week or two later and the meter showed 2/3 full battery. I was surprised, but I just figured the meter was inaccurate.

Any suggestions how to find out what happened?"},"Conversation:conversation:2891975":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2891975","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2891975"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2018-05-06T08:15:54.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2018-05-06T08:15:54.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":21,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2891975":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2891975","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:2891975_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:2891975_1","lastEditTime":"2018-05-04T13:32:17.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2891985":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:2891985","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2891975"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:123812"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":2891985,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"subject":"Re: Dead batteries","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2891985"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2891975"},"body":"
garyemunson wrote:
Battery tenders are not designed to 'charge' batteries. Their purpose is to zero out the battery's normal self-discharging and any minor parasitic draws. Even that can overwhelm the BT if too many things are drawing current.


You need to differentiate between a trickle charger, often called a battery tender and a battery charger with the brand name Battery Tender.

From the Battery Tender website:

The Battery Tender® Plus is a 1.25 amp battery charger designed to fully charge a battery and maintain it at proper storage voltage without the damaging effects caused by trickle chargers. Included is a quick connect ring terminal harness for hard to reach areas and alligator clips for an alternate connection.

Temperature compensated to ensure optimum charge voltage according to ambient temperature.
Automatically switches from full charge to float charging mode.
Reverse Polarity Protection to ensure user safety. Red & Green Lights Alternately Flash in this condition.
Complete 4-step charging program (Initialization, Bulk Charge, Absorption Mode, Float Mode).
Perfect for all lead-acid, flooded or sealed maintenance free batteries (AGM and gel cell).","body@stringLength":"1296","rawBody":"
garyemunson wrote:
Battery tenders are not designed to 'charge' batteries. Their purpose is to zero out the battery's normal self-discharging and any minor parasitic draws. Even that can overwhelm the BT if too many things are drawing current.


You need to differentiate between a trickle charger, often called a battery tender and a battery charger with the brand name Battery Tender.

From the Battery Tender website:

The Battery Tender® Plus is a 1.25 amp battery charger designed to fully charge a battery and maintain it at proper storage voltage without the damaging effects caused by trickle chargers. Included is a quick connect ring terminal harness for hard to reach areas and alligator clips for an alternate connection.

Temperature compensated to ensure optimum charge voltage according to ambient temperature.
Automatically switches from full charge to float charging mode.
Reverse Polarity Protection to ensure user safety. Red & Green Lights Alternately Flash in this condition.
Complete 4-step charging program (Initialization, Bulk Charge, Absorption Mode, Float Mode).
Perfect for all lead-acid, flooded or sealed maintenance free batteries (AGM and gel 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