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Empty_Nest__Soo's avatar
Feb 01, 2014

Do they make a TT like this? Or am I asking the impossible?

Our current 19-foot TT has a front bedroom, an island queen bed set sideways, dresser drawers and built in hamper across the front, 50-gallon fresh tank, 40-gallon black and gray tanks, booth dinette with drawer/storage beneath the seats.

Big complaints: 1) The windows sweat like crazy in cold weather, which is when we do most of our camping. Because of this, I will not buy another RV without dual pane windows. 2) There is only about 10 inches of kitchen counter and not enough kitchen storage. Our “pantry” is a shelf that was intended to hold a television, which we don’t need when camping. 3) The water line from the tank to the pump occasionally freezes and I have to rig a temporary line from a portable jug to the pump for fresh water until we get a day above freezing. 4) A lesser complaint is that we have both a microwave and a separate convection oven – would prefer a microwave/convection oven and cook-top instead, with drawers for storage below the cook-top where an oven would otherwise be.

I’ve been looking for a newer TT that would better meet our needs and have come up empty.

Does anyone know of a TT that has 1) island queen bed, 2) decent drawers in the bedroom for clothes, 3) generous water tanks, 4) booth dinette with storage, 5) dual pane glass available as an option, 6) respectable kitchen counter space, 7) enclosed, and preferably heated, underbelly, and 8) half-ton towable?

(Truck has all the towing options and has ratings of 10,000 pound max trailer and 1444 pound max carrying capacity.)

Bonus for microwave/convection combination oven and cook-top, no television, recliner(s) instead of sofa, and slide or extra-wide body.

It seems to me that someone should be able to design something like this, but we’ve been looking for years with no success. Does anyone know of a TT that fits our requirements?

Thanks!

Wayne

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  • We had a 19T4 for 7 yrs, and they do have a lot of storage for their size!! Loved the sideways bed and front drawers.

    Our Jayco does not have any more interior storage, probably a bit less, but does have as much or more accessible outside storage. Larger counter top, more food prep area. It did suffer from less freshwater until I added another 30 gals under the sofa. Holding tanks are somewhat smaller, but haven't been a problem.

    We also camp in cool weather, and will suffer the sweaty window syndrome, but we mostly use the trailer for sleeping and other functions and spend almost all of our time and cooking outside, which reduces the problem for us. And most of our camping is in pretty dry areas of the west.

    Like you, I would like to find (someday!!) a trailer that could be ordered to my specs and ideas. But, with the prices of today's units (built only one way) a custom one probably is out of my reach.
  • Dog Folks wrote:
    You might have to go a lot above 19 feet to met your wants/needs. (25' or more?)

    At 19 feet, I think you want to put 7 pounds of stuff into a 5 pound bag.

    Not saying it will impossible, but it will be hard to find.


    I am not trying to stay at 19 feet. I would be happy to go to 32 feet if I could tow it with my half-ton pickup. A heavy-duty truck is not an option.

    I figure it would be easy to design something in the 24- to 28-foot range with everything I want in a floor plan. I would be happy to add 3 feet to the kitchen of our current TT, with more counter space and cabinets on one side and a pantry on the other. Throw in options for dual pane glass and sealed underbelly. Dry weight on current TT is 4200 pounds and gross is 6100, and it’s not a lightweight; surely it is possible to do what I want at or below a gross of about 8000.

    I’ve looked at Arctic Fox. Not one of them has what I consider acceptable bedroom storage – not even nearly as much as our 11-year-old tiny entry-level Pioneer – until you get to the 29L and at 7968 dry, 10,400 GVWR, and 1040 dry hitch weight, I don’t consider it half-ton towable. A handing shirt locker on either side of the bed and no drawers is not acceptable. I have one shirt locker and 6 drawers now, plus a built-in hamper. Besides, I’m not set on a 4-season camper. I don’t go camping in winter, only early spring and late fall, for extended fishing trips in the WV mountains.

    Lance is not an option because of the U-shaped dinettes.

    I could probably live with the Nash 23D if they would make it a foot or two longer so you could turn the queen bed sideways and put dresser drawers across the front, plus lose the U-shaped dinette in favor of a booth plus a small pantry.

    Actually, the most difficult thing to find is not something that is snug for cold weather and has dual pane as an option – the most difficult thing is bedroom storage. The second most difficult-to-find things are good kitchen counter/storage and generous water tanks in a half-ton towable.

    Wayne
  • You might have to go a lot above 19 feet to met your wants/needs. (25' or more?)

    At 19 feet, I think you want to put 7 pounds of stuff into a 5 pound bag.

    Not saying it will impossible, but it will be hard to find.
  • ScottG wrote:
    Check out Arctic Fox TT's. They have better insulation and are built for cold weather use. You can get double pane windows as well and that's not easy to find in a small to mid size trailer.

    Lance may be a good choice too but I don't know about them having DP windows (Woodglue, your on!) ;)


    I like those Arctic Fox trailers but would lean more toward the Nash models if I'm towing with a half ton. I think they meet your criteria pretty well, and have a built in generator option. Outdoor RVs also has some models that seem to do what you want. The Lance RVs look promising and very light too.

    I also own a Pioneer trailer. I added tank heaters and insulation to the bottom of all three tanks, and have yet to experience freezing water lines. It was really simple.
  • Check out Arctic Fox TT's. They have better insulation and are built for cold weather use. You can get double pane windows as well and that's not easy to find in a small to mid size trailer.

    Lance may be a good choice too but I don't know about them having DP windows (Woodglue, your on!) ;)