Door sticker says never exceed 1263 lbs of cargo/passengers.

I know there are SOME light weight 5er's on the market, but I don't think anyone should EVER haul a 5er with a 1/2 ton truck, even the lightest 5er will be right at the limit for even the beefiest 1/2 ton, forget about any cargo or passengers, lol

RKW wrote:
I figure I'm overloaded by 250 lbs. I guess I could make the wife and the dogs ride in the trailer (joke). I've been looking at new trailers. Instead I need to be looking at a new TV.

What got me researching my own TV ratings was watching my buddy buy heavier and heavier 5th wheel RV's without changing his TV. Two trailers ago he installed an additional leaf spring to "take out the sag of the truck bed". Then he bought another trailer 3 months ago and said he needed another leak spring! That got us in an argument about him being overloaded. He said he checked the numbers and he was still in range. I told him I didn't check the numbers on his TV but I could still tell he was overloaded just using common sense. The 5th he has now has a dry hitch weight of 1428 lbs. He has a 2004 Nisan Titan 4X4 (half ton). That's just plain nutz.

Sounds like he is probably dangerously overloaded, heaven forbid he was to be involved in, or be the cause of an accident, he could be looking as some serious criminal charges for something like that. Not to mention insurance companies will not usually pay out on any claims if you are past weight limits of the vehicle.

He could add leaf springs till hes blue in the face, it would never change manufacturers ratings of the vehicle, which is all a crime scene or insurance investigator will care about, they may use it against him saying "he KNEW he was overloaded, why else would he add more springs".

If your friends truck isn't overloaded....why did he need additional leaf spring and considering more :S

Guarantee he is over on GVWR, RAWR and more than likely rear tire MAX Load Rating.

A quick trip across the scales.....nevermind he is in denial

I figure I'm overloaded by 250 lbs. I guess I could make the wife and the dogs ride in the trailer (joke). I've been looking at new trailers. Instead I need to be looking at a new TV.

What got me researching my own TV ratings was watching my buddy buy heavier and heavier 5th wheel RV's without changing his TV. Two trailers ago he installed an additional leaf spring to "take out the sag of the truck bed". Then he bought another trailer 3 months ago and said he needed another leak spring! That got us in an argument about him being overloaded. He said he checked the numbers and he was still in range. I told him I didn't check the numbers on his TV but I could still tell he was overloaded just using common sense. The 5th he has now has a dry hitch weight of 1428 lbs. He has a 2004 Nisan Titan 4X4 (half ton). That's just plain nutz.

It is sad my tiny Jeep Liberty is right up there near your "1/2 ton" truck with its 1150# rating on its door sticker, and I have a friend who tows a small TT with his Saturn Outlook and his door sticker says something near 1500# (forget exact number off hand), so he can carry even MORE than your "1/2 ton" truck.

This comment is not meant as a dis on you, or your truck, just most automakers exaggerations (or outright lies) on what a pickup truck is, I had been thinking I could upgrade some day to a 150/1500 series truck to tow with, but I have come to find out you need at least a 250/2500 series to get any better towing capability than I already have with my current "Compact SUV".

RKW wrote:
What!? That can't be right. I've found many other sources on line that state the payload as 1889 lbs. What gives here?

My truck is a 2007 GMC Sierra 1500 Classic.

Door sticker takes in account weight of all options, the cargo weight comes from adding both front and rear weight ratings together and subtracting the ACTUAL UNLADEN (AKA CURB) weight.

The 1889 cargo weight would only be valid for a BASE REGULAR CAB 4x2 with the lightest engine and no other options. This IS how the game is played with pretty much all manufacturers.

Things like cab size, bed length, 4x4 and even weight of the engine all add weight and that weight takes away just how much available cargo weight you have left over..

Sorry for the bad news, that is the way it is.

Old-Biscuit wrote:
Door sticker is specific to your vehicle

On-line sources are generic and come with fine print*
*May vary depending on model, trim and/or powertrain.
*Weight of additional options, passengers, cargo and hitch must be deducted from this weight.

It is what it is......yours is 1263#

Time to buy a real truck then.

If any doubt put it on a scale and compare to GVWR.

Door sticker is specific to your vehicle

On-line sources are generic and come with fine print*
*May vary depending on model, trim and/or powertrain.
*Weight of additional options, passengers, cargo and hitch must be deducted from this weight.

It is what it is......yours is 1263#

The 1889 weight may not include "options" such as A/C, P/S, etc. In fact the weight of the engine can even reduce the actual cargo rating.