My wife and I just returned from a pro BBQ competition in Lanexa, VA. We had the truck LOADED with camping supplies, cooking supplies, a 300 lb smoker, and about 150 lbs worth of meat on ice. We were also towing our new 35' travel trailer that weighs about 7500 loaded. I pumped up the airbags to 50 lbs. I am using an E-qual-izer WD hitch with four-point friction sway control.We stopped on the way to the event to weigh the entire setup. Gross weight of the whole setup was 14,220. The front axle was 3300, rear axle 4280, 7580 total putting me 230 lbs over GVWR. The trailer weighed 6640 but we didn't unhook the hitch to get a tongue weight.The truck towed fantastic. I am using an Leading Edge Tuning 93 octane tow tune. Temps ran about 194 and the IC temp was always about 1.5 degrees cooler than ambient. There was a small amount of sway in the wind, but none from passing trucks. We ran about 65 mph and got 9.8 mpg. I did increase the rear tire pressure to 40 psi (stupid P tires), but the weight in the bed was the real culprit for the sway.All in all I was impressed but wouldn't make this a regular practice. Luckily we only do about four BBQ comps a year.Oh, on the way home, 6 miles from our trailer storage lot, we got a low tire pressure warning. It is no fun having to unhook a trailer to change a tire, but fortunately we were able to find a gas station lot to work in. I must say, the TPMS saved our bacon and the Ford jack setup was pretty sufficient. I'm carrying a floor jack from now on though.Finally, we ended up finishing 10th overall out of 42 teams, against some nationally ranked teams. We placed 8th in chicken, 14th in ribs, 4th in pork, and 19th in brisket.

NICE looking rig.Congrats on your competition results and, thanks for the info on the Ecoboost.

My rig is very similar.... I can't wait to switch to LT tires... I tow with a Hensley. It's a dream to drive.

Nice looking setup. Why did you have to unhook the trailer to change a tire on the truck though?

My Max Tow has a #7700 GVWR or did you mean you were over on the rear axle rating? Probably so, because my rear GAWR is #4050.So it's easy to hit the rear GAWR before the GVWR now... Great.. ;)My old F150, I was over the GVWR (#6250), but okay on the rear axle towing a #5000 TT.. Going to tow the same #5000 TT with the 2013 F150, so I guess I'll have to get it weighed so I know where I'm at.. Thanks!Mitch

11,300 tow capacity with a V-6 1/2 ton???

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Teamfour
Explorer
Apr 10, 2014
BillyW wrote:
I bet you're wrong. I'm sure the model rated to tow 11,300 lbs has LT tires.

Unfortunately they don't, and that is why I am upgrading to LT tires tomorrow.

Remember, P tires aren't necessarily bad; there are E load P tires out there.
Turtle_n_Peeps
Explorer
Apr 10, 2014
DSteiner51 wrote:
ah64id wrote:

I don't care what the mfgrs say, it's a marketing thing and that's it...

I'm curious... How much flack would one get if one made the same comment about the GVWR of a pickup? How does one decide which manufacturers rating is bible and which is junk? If this type comment is good then why should I pay attention to any manufacturers rating?

Really, really good question. I ask the same of people that don't trust OLM systems. I ask those same people if they ever get their oil analyzed and most say, "what's that?" LOL

It's really funny how people pick and choose on this forum. :h
bigcitypopo
Explorer
Apr 10, 2014
Buck50HD wrote:
I haven't had the opportunity to compare towing a 15k trailer with a DRW vs SRW super duty but I would imagine the magnitude of the difference would be similar to the difference between an F150HD and a standard 1/2 ton. It is impossible to explain it to someone that hasn't experienced it first hand. And how many people have actually experienced an F150HD? Only the 1% who own one.

^ +1

i wouldn't tow a tear drop with anything less than a 1 ton dually... :)
OH48Lt
Explorer
Apr 10, 2014
Teamfour wrote:

Unfortunately they don't, and that is why I am upgrading to LT tires tomorrow.

Let us know how that works out. Both my dealer and the local big tire store say it can't be done because of the TPMS system. The LT tires require more air pressure, and that triggers the TPMS and it can't be re-programmed.

Seems like the TPMS parameters in the computer could be reset to higher pressures, or the TPMS units on the wheels could be changed out.

Either way, let us know if it really can be done or if there are TPMS issues.
Teamfour
Explorer
Apr 10, 2014
OH48Lt wrote:
Teamfour wrote:

Unfortunately they don't, and that is why I am upgrading to LT tires tomorrow.

Let us know how that works out. Both my dealer and the local big tire store say it can't be done because of the TPMS system. The LT tires require more air pressure, and that triggers the TPMS and it can't be re-programmed.

Seems like the TPMS parameters in the computer could be reset to higher pressures, or the TPMS units on the wheels could be changed out.

Either way, let us know if it really can be done or if there are TPMS issues.

It can be done, folks do it all the time. My tire dealer said they can set the TPMS pressure. And if not, my SCT tuner has the option to change the pressure settings.
Tystevens
Explorer
Apr 10, 2014
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
DSteiner51 wrote:
ah64id wrote:

I don't care what the mfgrs say, it's a marketing thing and that's it...

I'm curious... How much flack would one get if one made the same comment about the GVWR of a pickup? How does one decide which manufacturers rating is bible and which is junk? If this type comment is good then why should I pay attention to any manufacturers rating?

Really, really good question. I ask the same of people that don't trust OLM systems. I ask those same people if they ever get their oil analyzed and most say, "what's that?" LOL

It's really funny how people pick and choose on this forum. :h

Or rely on their experiences with vehicles made in 1975 and assume it applies across the board to something built in 2013. Concepts of half/three-quarter/one-ton, towing gears, maintenance schedules, displacement, etc., have evolved.
APT
Explorer
Apr 10, 2014
F150 max tow package has 11k-ish pound tow rating with standard passenger tires. LT C are optional I believe but so few have them.

F150 HD payload package has the same 11k-ish pound tow rating and LT tires standard.
Buck50HD
Explorer
Apr 10, 2014
Yep, dealer has the capability of changing the TPMS setpoint for you. They just need to figure it out.
Ric_Flair
Explorer
Apr 10, 2014
bigcitypopo wrote:
i wouldn't tow a tear drop with anything less than a 1 ton dually... :)

Exactly.

Here's your camping checklist:

1) Is your TV a diesel? - no
2) Is your TV a doolie? - no
3) If 'no' Go back and correct 1 and 2
4) Proceed to campsite
rhagfo
Explorer III
Apr 10, 2014
Buck50HD wrote:
I haven't had the opportunity to compare towing a 15k trailer with a DRW vs SRW super duty but I would imagine the magnitude of the difference would be similar to the difference between an F150HD and a standard 1/2 ton. It is impossible to explain it to someone that hasn't experienced it first hand. And how many people have actually experienced an F150HD? Only the 1% who own one.

It would also be great input as to the difference between towing your 5th wheel with your F150 Max/Max, and your new 6.2 F250, both power and driving experience.

That 1% is a very sad figure, is it the cost of the Max Payload??