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RinconVTR wrote:

Hybridhunter wrote:

itguy08 wrote:


Maybe because they have been a drag on the economy for the past 30 years, requiring 2 bailouts. They have been making **** vehicles for nearly their entire existence. Poor business decisions after another. They need to go the way of all the past brands that have put out junk.

They sell a couple million cars annually. Someone will fill in that void, and that means jobs for those people. GM, Ford, Honda, Nissan, Toyota, VW, all with plants in the USA will happily pick up the slack and will need people and plants to make that happen.

So very true. I can't figure why anyone buys one in the information age....

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Man we have some real uninformed people or just plain stupid you pick.

History lesson clowns.

One, the "first bailout" was not done by the Government it was done by the employees! They put up money from their retirement fund to bail out the company not the Government. The only thing the Government did was OK it and guarantee the loan if Chrysler could not repay it. It was paid back early and at 100%! Not one dime of tax payer money was used!

Second, In 2008 or 2009 GM and Chrysler's loans came do for refinancing one year after Ford's loans. The only reason Ford did not have to go through the exact same procedure to refinance, was the Ford Family put up everything they owned to secure their loans. Unfortunately for GM and Chrysler they did not have their original family's running their companies anymore.

So with the banks turning them down (the ones real Americans should be hating on) they had to go to the Government to refinance their loans. During this time certain government officials (and a few CEO's I'm sure) decided that the only way GM and Chrysler would get their loans was the UAW had to reopen our contracts and agree to be black mailed in to concessions. That could could not happen unless they went through bankruptcy. FCA has repaid 100% of what was required and did it long before the loan was do!

Chrysler had one other requirement added onto them and that was that they had to have a real car company take them over. That was do to the fact that Cerberus owned us and had no idea on how to run a car company. It was a take all or nothing deal. In other words all of the divisions had to be taken on or no deal.

Fiat was the only company willing to do so and that is how we got to where we are now.

As to the QC remarks, I would put our quality up against almost any other car company out there. I can say first hand that FCA is 100% commented to building a quality product and like every other car company out there we do make some mistakes. The problem is when you are only selling half the vehicles that some others are selling it doesn't take much to skew your numbers.

But hay most intelligent people out there already know this, it's just a few that really have no clue or worse yet they have an agenda to full fill.

As to the OP's question, and Troy hit it on the head, the GC and Ram for that matter have to fill their old orders before building any new ones. A rumor I have heard is their will be no 2018 Rams built with the ED until after the next gen truck comes out in January of 2018.

Don

Oh BTW Troy I thought I was the Don of the Ram Mafia not a lowly Captain lol. :W