Electric vehicle mandate in California

ShinerBock wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Yah that sounds plausible. Around here it seems different than that but your sceenario is obvious the case in many places. I think so much depends on infrastructure, fuel cost, electricity rates etc. All of which make EV’s very good candidates as a principal vehicle if the conditions are right. In American dollars gas is close to 3 bucks a gallon here. Power is under 10 cents a kilowatt hour. Infrastructure is good and new apartment buildings are mandated to have charging facilities making older building owners upgrade to be competitive. Lots of restaurants putting in charging facilities etc. If you commute a 150 km a day here a significant portion of your car payment is payed in fuel savings. I realize this is not the case everywhere but it’s easy to see why it’s taking off here.

And building all of this to handle even a 50% BEV market share will increase the cost of living which will put more below the poverty line.

In order for the apartment building to compete due to the mandate, they will have to put in chargers. Who will pay for the chargers? The renters which will mainly be high end renters who can afford it. In order to cope with the added energy needed, the underground wire going from the substation to these apartment building will have to be cut out and increased. Who will pay for that? All the people using the power so electric bills will increase. This has a chain effect on all businesses using utility and property values going up which will cause the general cost of living to go up for everyone due to a progressive mandate.

This is one of the big reasons why places like California have become so expensive to live in, and why you see so many middle and lower class people move out with wealthier people moving in. The progressives make these mandates or regulations without any regards to what kind residual effect it will have. All they care about is their agenda and forcing people to comply with that agenda regardless of whether it pushes middle class citizens below the poverty line or not. Same thing with the EPA and the overly strict diesel emissions rules its progressive bureaucrats enacted without congressional input.

For sure. But from an apartment buildings owners perspective, keeping modernized and attractive to tenants was just part of the business plan for us. It’s probably different where you are but many apartment buildings already have plug ins for block heaters here so zero expense for the building owner in that case. Also, charging facilities means a place to plug an EVSE in. Our buildings had outside plugs for each apartment and there own breaker inside their apartment. No actual equipment costs as every EV comes with an EVSE that happily plugs into a 120 volt 15 amp household receptacle, although I notice some are actually putting in actual charge stations that are billed by the minute. Different approaches for different scenarios. And as you point out, if fuel is cheap enough (like where you live) some of the advantage of buying electric goes away. Around here it is 6 to 8 times cheaper to drive electric than gas. Big incentive. It sound like where you are might be half of that...or less. This is why some areas will see electric vehicle growth much slower than others.