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- 4x4ordExplorer IIIThe 2011 Ford has a poor exhaust brake. When going down steep grades with a heavy trailer you get very good engine braking if you can slow down enough to allow the transmission to select 2nd gear. (I think this is about 45 mph with my truck)) My 2011 Ford holds back much better than my 03 Duramax did descending the same hill with the same 15000 lb trailer. The 2015 Fords apparently are much better.
- Fulltimer50Explorer
rhagfo wrote:
Fulltimer50 wrote:
The RPMs need to be in the 3K range to feel any difference. I use the Manual mode most of the time so I can choose what gear I am in.
That is why I love the Pacbrake on my 01. Works even at low RPM.
I hear ya. I had a BD brake on my '99 7.3 that was great. - RedRocket204Explorer
2011 Ford F350 Manual 4th Edition wrote:
Tow/haul delays upshifts to reduce frequency of transmission shifting.
Tow/haul also provides engine braking in all forward gears when the
transmission is in the D (Overdrive) position; this engine braking will
slow the vehicle and assist the driver in controlling the vehicle when
descending a grade. Depending on driving conditions and load
conditions, the transmission may downshift, slow the vehicle and control
the vehicle speed when descending a hill, without the accelerator pedal
being pressed. The amount of downshift braking provided
It may not be the Ram exhaust brake, but there is definitely an engine brake. - buc1980ExplorerPeople don't know what they got on theirs truck.2011 to 2014 don't have a exsaust brake the new 2015 have one.
- LynnmorExplorerI have a 2011 F250 6.7 diesel. It has an exhaust brake. It works. End of story.
- huntramExplorer
Lynnmor wrote:
huntram wrote:
The 2011 does NOT have an exhaust brake. It uses the transmission to slow it down on descents. Ford was not quite forthcoming on their advertising on this truck. Check with Banks, or BD or PacBrake on the subject if you doubt me. They can not even build one without cooking the turbo! My good friend Bill Gehr who writes articles in Trailer Life has a 2011. He is very disappointed that it does not have an EB.
Here is what Bill Gehr wrote about a 2011 F450:
All right, enough of the techno-babble, how did it tow?
Well, the F-450 had zero trouble hauling the relatively lightweight 12,900-pound Montana
fiver around town, up a 7-percent grade and on moderate mountain passes. The Enhanced Tow
Haul Mode with Integrated Engine Exhaust Braking ensured smooth downshifts via a
brake-pressure transducer, which monitors the actual brake pressure applied and helps when
descending a steep grade. - See more at: http://www.trailerlife.com/reviews/trailer-reviews/2011-ford-super-duty-f-450-and-keystone%e2%80%99s-montana/#sthash.Bkp44dhi.dpuf
I believe that the F250 & F350 worked the same.
No actually that was Kristopher Bunker that wrote that article! I'm telling you that Bill is a good buddy of mine. In fact the JTB power solutions article last year was in my 5th wheel. He has a 2011 F-350 and swears there is not an EB in it. There is a company working on one now but we'll see if it ever comes out.
Brian - rhagfoExplorer III
Fulltimer50 wrote:
The RPMs need to be in the 3K range to feel any difference. I use the Manual mode most of the time so I can choose what gear I am in.
That is why I love the Pacbrake on my 01. Works even at low RPM. - LynnmorExplorer
huntram wrote:
The 2011 does NOT have an exhaust brake. It uses the transmission to slow it down on descents. Ford was not quite forthcoming on their advertising on this truck. Check with Banks, or BD or PacBrake on the subject if you doubt me. They can not even build one without cooking the turbo! My good friend Bill Gehr who writes articles in Trailer Life has a 2011. He is very disappointed that it does not have an EB.
Here is what Bill Gehr wrote about a 2011 F450:
All right, enough of the techno-babble, how did it tow?
Well, the F-450 had zero trouble hauling the relatively lightweight 12,900-pound Montana
fiver around town, up a 7-percent grade and on moderate mountain passes. The Enhanced Tow
Haul Mode with Integrated Engine Exhaust Braking ensured smooth downshifts via a
brake-pressure transducer, which monitors the actual brake pressure applied and helps when
descending a steep grade. - See more at: http://www.trailerlife.com/reviews/trailer-reviews/2011-ford-super-duty-f-450-and-keystone%e2%80%99s-montana/#sthash.Bkp44dhi.dpuf
I believe that the F250 & F350 worked the same. - huntramExplorerThe 2011 does NOT have an exhaust brake. It uses the transmission to slow it down on descents. Ford was not quite forthcoming on their advertising on this truck. Check with Banks, or BD or PacBrake on the subject if you doubt me. They can not even build one without cooking the turbo! My good friend Bill Gehr who writes articles in Trailer Life has a 2011. He is very disappointed that it does not have an EB.
- Fulltimer50ExplorerThe RPMs need to be in the 3K range to feel any difference. I use the Manual mode most of the time so I can choose what gear I am in.
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