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GWolfe wrote:
I had a stock 1988 Omni but wanted the GLH. I traded it two years later for a 454 SS.
A friends dad had a Dodge Omni GLH (Goes Like Heck) back in the 80's, talk about a sleeper!- A friends dad had a Dodge Omni GLH (Goes Like Heck) back in the 80's, talk about a sleeper!
colliehauler wrote:
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I remember back in the 80's they had a lot of turbo 4cyl engines that ran well. Good friend had one. Chrysler was using turbos and GM was using displacement on demand .FishOnOne wrote:
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
The twin turbo will smoke everything out there, not sure why no one else is adapting this technology! Well Kia is but then they copy everyone's design and power plant. JS
Don
Don,
I thought I recall reading an article that FCA was developing their version of an EcoBoost engine but it looks like they went another direction with the E Torque system.
They are coming out with both single and dual turbo engines.
The e-torque is just the name, they were going to be called Hurricane.
LINK for 4 cylinder info.
FCA’s new turbocharged four-cylinder engine was internally named “Hurricane,” after a fighter plane and a long-gone Jeep engine. Years ago, Allpar posted the program goals: for one Hurricane to reach 250 horsepower, and for another to beat 300. On November 29, 2017, Jeep released specs on the first one — the efficiency-focused powerplant — and it beat expectations.
The turbocharger is a twin-scroll, low-inertia model, as Allpar predicted a year or two go, with an electronically actuated wastegate; the turbocharger is mounted to the cylinder head for durability. A separate cooling circuit is used for the intake air cooler, throttle body, and turbocharger.
This is the first time that the combined use of a twin-scroll turbocharger, (cooled EGR), Central Direct Injection, and the independent liquid cooling intake of air, throttle body, and turbo have been employed together. This combination of technologies enables the high levels of performance and reduces fuel consumption.
Here is a link for the in-line 6 twin turbo.
An old friend of mine had a late 80s LeBaron convertible with a turbocharged 4 banger and a manual transmission that was a real sleeper.Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I remember back in the 80's they had a lot of turbo 4cyl engines that ran well. Good friend had one. Chrysler was using turbos and GM was using displacement on demand .FishOnOne wrote:
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
The twin turbo will smoke everything out there, not sure why no one else is adapting this technology! Well Kia is but then they copy everyone's design and power plant. JS
Don
Don,
I thought I recall reading an article that FCA was developing their version of an EcoBoost engine but it looks like they went another direction with the E Torque system.
They are coming out with both single and dual turbo engines.
The e-torque is just the name, they were going to be called Hurricane.
LINK for 4 cylinder info.
FCA’s new turbocharged four-cylinder engine was internally named “Hurricane,” after a fighter plane and a long-gone Jeep engine. Years ago, Allpar posted the program goals: for one Hurricane to reach 250 horsepower, and for another to beat 300. On November 29, 2017, Jeep released specs on the first one — the efficiency-focused powerplant — and it beat expectations.
The turbocharger is a twin-scroll, low-inertia model, as Allpar predicted a year or two go, with an electronically actuated wastegate; the turbocharger is mounted to the cylinder head for durability. A separate cooling circuit is used for the intake air cooler, throttle body, and turbocharger.
This is the first time that the combined use of a twin-scroll turbocharger, (cooled EGR), Central Direct Injection, and the independent liquid cooling intake of air, throttle body, and turbo have been employed together. This combination of technologies enables the high levels of performance and reduces fuel consumption.
Here is a link for the in-line 6 twin turbo.FishOnOne wrote:
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
The twin turbo will smoke everything out there, not sure why no one else is adapting this technology! Well Kia is but then they copy everyone's design and power plant. JS
Don
Don,
I thought I recall reading an article that FCA was developing their version of an EcoBoost engine but it looks like they went another direction with the E Torque system.
They are coming out with both single and dual turbo engines.
The e-torque is just the name, they were going to be called Hurricane.
LINK for 4 cylinder info.
FCA’s new turbocharged four-cylinder engine was internally named “Hurricane,” after a fighter plane and a long-gone Jeep engine. Years ago, Allpar posted the program goals: for one Hurricane to reach 250 horsepower, and for another to beat 300. On November 29, 2017, Jeep released specs on the first one — the efficiency-focused powerplant — and it beat expectations.
The turbocharger is a twin-scroll, low-inertia model, as Allpar predicted a year or two go, with an electronically actuated wastegate; the turbocharger is mounted to the cylinder head for durability. A separate cooling circuit is used for the intake air cooler, throttle body, and turbocharger.
This is the first time that the combined use of a twin-scroll turbocharger, (cooled EGR), Central Direct Injection, and the independent liquid cooling intake of air, throttle body, and turbo have been employed together. This combination of technologies enables the high levels of performance and reduces fuel consumption.
Here is a link for the in-line 6 twin turbo.- What folks who havent owned a 3.5eb yet fail to understand is how similar it’s power delivery is to a diesel or to a lesser extent a big block of yesterday, while still give v8 like fuel economy. Plainly put, it’s better than V8 pulling power with similar to V8 fuel economy. Fords 5.0 and 6.2 don’t have nearly as much low end guts as the 3.5eb and same goes for the GM 5.3 and 6.2, look at the HP and torque curves and you’ll see why.
FishOnOne wrote:
The 3.5, 5.3, and 6.2 are all really good engines so let's rest good at night.
And so is my 8.1 :B
2 1/2 times more displacement than a 3.5 :B- Mark, you GM bias is really coming through. You are making some sense (like the Ford being power braked, although I think the GM was as well, just not as much), but some of your comments are just flat out off.
The EcoBoost has been revamped more recently than any of the GM engines.
The other "test" FLT did was with one of the brands engineers sitting in the truck (I assume you are referring to the one done in CA). It wasn't timed in any way, and their results were nothing more than seat of the pants feel.
I think you are somewhat on target for fuel economy, as the EB has proven over time to simply be equal to V8s. But did you look at the EPA ratings of these SUVs? The Expedition is rated 2 MPG higher than the GM.
I have a 2011 Yukon Denali XL. I pull my 7000ish pound boat over Eisenhower several times per year. It will not hold 60 MPH up the pass. The test FLT did with the Ex showed them doing it easily.
I have driven the last generation Expedition with an EcoBoost. It had no advantages in the interior over my generation SUV, but even that engine/drivetrain was better than mine. I have NO DOUBT the current or last Expedition will out accelerate and be a better towing performance than the GM.
Ford played "catch up" for years in the full size SUV race. It certainly looks to me like the new Ex is the real deal, and that the leap frogged GM. MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
The direct injected 5.3 was an all new engine in 2014 . So when was the eco boost developed? 2011?? Funny how when you don't change an engine line up in 4 years people think it's no good . I really think people these days just buy the latest greatest and have to intentions of keeping for long time with lots of miles, and having to do your own work on them . Just Spin it off after warranty and keep that 700 car payment rolling!
The 3.5, 5.3, and 6.2 are all really good engines so let's rest good at night.
