Extending stay/ Blackwater?

The few that wont work for me are new toilet, add a 2nd black tank,use campground,I'm in the boonies no CG for many miles. I already don't use very much water, my liquid waste is are liquid, I never put the paper in my tank,water is no problem for us, we have plenty, myself I very seldom use the toilet except in early AM if I have a emergency.Were very aware of are use but a 10gal. tank doesn't last very long. I think there has been enough post on this matter and I thank you all for you input. With all the suggestions I'm sure I'll come up with something.We'll not need till March or so.

I'm just wondering what it means to "Christian" a toilet but it sounds like, well, I'm not sure ;)

Bryan, you have this figured out better than anyone else that I know of.

I have written about this subject before and have been called extreme in how I make it work for me. Find some of the suggestions that might relate to your use and use those. But conservation, shines when you have multiple people, or wish to extend a trip for more than just a weekend. It falls within the TP Factor.

SteveAE practices is how I feel about some of the suggestions, above, too. There are lots of considerations that may or may not be used. Generally when I worked Backcountry/backpacked for more than 45 years, the rule was, 200 feet from everything, especially water sources. From where you camp, you cook 200 feet away, same for your "Cat Hole," 200 feet. If you are using it more than once, the hole needs to be much deeper than you might imagine, and at least 3 feet or more.

I'm just one person, so my example is like a lot of others posting here, my own. While the majority are using and the OP says Black Tank suggestions, i will keep them to that specific use in my suggestions. For me, going more than 2 months between dump stations is typical. Others have asked; "How do you do this?" Easy is my answer, cut your water use by 90% and your black tank won’t fill up as fast. In turn, you will have more potable water to use for drinking and cooking.

The majority of fluids in your black water tank, is water. Water that is unnecessary to use in the quantity most use. The best way to curb this excess is STOP using your Water Pump. This why I don't recommend Accumulator Tanks for boondocking or use when water it is finite commodity, one person I have met has a bypass on his to use when conservative use of his potable water is necessary. When using an Accumulator Tank, you will use more unaccountable water. But, they do save battery capacity and are convenient to not have to turn on the Water Pump, when using your water system.

I have a "List of Supplies" below. Grab a water bottle and fill it up with water, it does not need to be potable water, as you can fill up from streams or lakes. Take a teaspoon, or eyeball, some bleach into the Bottle and place it next to the toilet, for everyone to use. Having the top being able to snap closed, is a plus. Use another bottle by the Kitchen sink (but with Potable water Filled in it) to rinse down the sink and wash hands, rather than using the kitchen faucet. Same can be done at bathroom sink, if desired (I’ve never used this sink and Faucet). Doing this you are saving Potable Water, for other uses. (I have an article coming out on Water Conservation, that will cover this more thoroughly).

If you are not able, or equipped to urinate outside, use the toilet as normal, but instead of hitting the handle, for water, aim the water bottle and rinse accordingly. One rinse bottle, for me, last about 2 weeks. For going the other way, lightly wet the toilet bowl with the water bottle, don't soak! Then take a few pieces of TP in a long strips and lay it in the bowl. Do your business and then use the Water Bottle to rinse the solids into the Black Tank. The TP acts as a slide to aid in moving the solids and keep the streaks from taking lots of water, or clean up, to remove. The Water Bottle gives you more direction option than the water jet from your toilet. Thus, you are saving lots of Potable Water (YEAH!) and you are not filling up your Black Tank, as fast as you once did (Yeah).

If you would like me to explain composting, I can do that. Just ask. The dirty little secret, that a few of you know about, and one has threaten to christen my Toilet, is, well, I have never gone no. 2 in my Camper, since I have owned it. That, in turn, saves a lot of work when I arrive at a Dump Station. I have included this option in my below list of supplies, that you can figure out your own solution, composting.

For me it all adds up to how I am able to stay out, in the middle of nowhere, not for a few days, or a week or two, but for more than a month at a time, without heading to the store.


Preparation.

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Supplies for Xtreme Boondocking

O.K., here is what you need to have;
2 Bicycle type Water Bottles or Sriracha Bottle (empty)
1 Five gallon exclusive use only Fuel Jug (I like to use a Jegs Jug) or 5g bucket with sealed lids (Pickle Buckles from Restaurants are a great source).
1 Five Gallon Bucket with sealed lid (if elected for this option)
1 $16 Toilet Seat from Home Depot (if elected for this option)
1 Bag of Dry Peat Moss
Twist Locking Cap for your dump Pipe with Hose Fitting
18 inch (or more) short cut off garden hose with female end attached.
½ gallon of bleach
Good RV Toilet paper
Discipline to use items

O.K., when you have those items, take the short garden hose and attach it to the locking cap for your sewer pipe. To determine the length of garden hose, set Fuel Jug of Sealed bucket so 2 to 3 inches of hose extends into the top of the Jug or hose. Practice with your Grey Tank. You will see that when shutting the valve, it will take a few ounces before dripping stops, as does your black tank valve. This fluid will foam (from urine) so it gives you an early warning, as the Jug/Bucket fills up. This Jug can then be disposed of, much like a Cassette Toilet Capsule is done.


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Obviously whoever picked the name didn't RV. Dick Cheney???

I checked into the thread because I thought you were going to hire a security company for protection on your trip.:R

The wag bag system worked for us till we got the new black water tank installed. Used the potty in the bathroom by placing the bags in it securing mnemonic said bags with the lower seat ring. We still carry a supply of them to extend stays and where there are no dump stations to dump blue boy that we also take along. We have no gray tank in our old Shadow Cruiser so blue tank is used mostly for get water. We dig hole and bury everything well away from streams or lakes when remote camping. Hubby had no problem with outdoor pee calls but me.....not so much. Bags online and or Cabela's and Bass Pro. Used them a lot when we tent camped.

wvabeer wrote:
Dig a hole and make a temp. outhouse cover and move when its full. A bucket buddy on a 5 gallon bucket and no bottom.

At one time this was common, but I have to respectfully disagree with this approach now. Liquid waste is generally no problem (except concentrated in a desert environment), but solid waste just isn't acceptable anymore when the means to carry it out is available (i.e.; a vehicle). Sure, if you are backpacking away from other people then it is understandable (some places even require backpackers to carry out their solid waste). But it's no fun camping in what you think a pristine location, only to have used TP blowing around....or your dog digging up a tasty treat and then licking your face, or your child picking up a rock only to discover...... Also, such cat holes attract higher numbers of insects, birds, and other animals (such as bears) which bring their own set of problems to an area. So if you can drive there, then please have a plan to haul solid waste out.

As to the temporary outhouse .... whatever floats your boat. They do sell nifty outhouse tents if you feel the need. Or, the portable toilet (that collects solid waste) can simply be set up behind a bush, tree, or rock and gosh, the folks you are with really don't want to watch so will avert their eyes even if you are right in the middle of camp (have had to do this on a number of occasions...it's life folks).

I have no have intent to start a shouting match over this and I seldom post a response like this, but in this case, I felt it appropriate educate folks as to what is appropriate in today's world.

Happy camping all,
Steve

Dig a hole and make a temp. outhouse cover and move when its full. A bucket buddy on a 5 gallon bucket and no bottom.

Out of curiosity, what options would not work, and why?

When the choice is between any of the options presented here, and p**ping in the frying pan, they all look very attractive to me. I'd make some pretty drastic compromises to avoid that.