F-150 Crew Max Tow vs. Hideout 30ft TT

ah64id wrote:

Kevin O. wrote:
Not sure where you are getting your tongue weight figures from?

Experience, they are always heavier than listed in a brochure. On my current trailer the lightest tongue weight I have ever seen, with an empty trailer, is 200# over the listed tongue weight.. and that trailer doesn't even have any options available everything is standard. Most of the bigger BH TT's end up with TW's that are 15%, yours is lighter and that's not the norm but in your case allows you to tow it.

Dry often doesn't include things like propane, batteries, air conditioning, etc.. Propane and batteries are almost 100% tongue weight, very little goes on the trailer axles.

As you have done, weighing is the best answer.

See Kevin. It's experiance but only with outdated ideas. Folks that haven't trailer shopped, don't know or won't accept that by law the yellow sticker on a New TT tells you exactly what the TT weighes sitting on the lot in front of you. Including AC, Awning, Well everything you see. A very handy thing to know. It will also tell you the weight with full tanks, and has to be updated IF the dealer add any weight. However, Most come fully dressed so dealer add very little now days.
Also some don't understand that "many" newer trailers are MUCH lighter than they were just a few years ago, For instance. My 31' APEX is dry with all options, Battery, empty propane tanks. (But tanks installed) comes to 4811 LB. Over 100lbs lighter than my 2004 24' TT. Very lite by older standards. It is less than 6000 ready to camp.

You must also realize that many folk can't leave ANYTHING at home and load their trailers up to 2000lb over dry. While many of us just take what we need to camp. Ususally less than 1000lbs.

So being stuck in the past they give outdated advise.